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THE_BIG_FED
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NJstacked said:
i was kinda on 25-50mcg for a few months straight.....
.....ended up not being a bright idea. everyone was concerned with shutting down thyroid, or eating up muscle.....shit this was way worse.
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BrothaBill
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It all depends on the mechanism behind the irregular heartbeat. Typically irregular heartbeats are generated in the atrium, which are the upper two chambers of the heart, there is a nonconductive layer of tissue between the upper chambers and the lower chambers called ventricles, in between is a failsafe gate that delays signals between the upper and lower heart preventing runawy ventricular beats. IN GENERAL ventricular irregularities are bad. Fortunately they are a small minority of what we see. For perspective every cell in the heart can generate a heart beat, that is why everyone will get palpitations every single day. Sometimes the atrium will just go berserk and just fires off signals, these signals are prevented from reaching the ventricles by the failsafe delay called the av node. That is the most common irregularity called atrial fibrillation. It feels like a bad drummer doing a solo in your chest. That can be caused by several factors, basically anything that irritates the cells of the heart, like alcohol, caffeine, ephedrine, excess thyroid, certain medications, structural abnormalities, or just because, which was my case and how Im in my profession, just read so much on it decided to go to school for it. The danger of irregular atrial rhythms is more a function of the result, if your heart is prevented from producing enough output because your heart is beating to fast to fill the chamber for every beat, low bp and cardiac output will result with symptoms accordingly, Also if you stay in irregular rhythm like atrial fibrillation, blood can coagulate in the atrium then shoot up to the brain and cause a stroke. But, thats worse case scenario and is unlikely because people typically go to the doctor if they have a rhythm that lasts a long time (over 48 Hrs).
This is meant as educational and should not be used in place of appropriate medical care, there are dozens of different heart rhythms caused by humdreds of different things and this is meant as a basic overview, I will address specific questions if you post, but in an educational environment. Later for now.
This is meant as educational and should not be used in place of appropriate medical care, there are dozens of different heart rhythms caused by humdreds of different things and this is meant as a basic overview, I will address specific questions if you post, but in an educational environment. Later for now.
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BrothaBill
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cbeaks
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Do you know if pondimin increases heart rate also? I know it was pulled from the market because it caused heart problems but I didn't know what kind of heart problems it caused. - cbeaks
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BrothaBill
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From my understanding that it did not increase heart rate, but it was the phentermine that in the fen/phen combination. Since its been pulled I havent really seen that many patients with the disorder. It is responsible in very rare cases of primary pulmonary hypertension, basically the pressures are so high in the lungs that oxygen cannot be absorbed through the lung vascular system. It was also seen to cause valvular heart disease similar to carcinoid damage. What that means is that the valves get coated with this gunk and prevent it from closing, You can actually seen it under a microscope. When I see it with ultrasound the heart valves look like they are sort of wretched and sclerotic. The end result of this process is a leaky heart valve of varying degrees that may or may not necessitate treatment. As far as how common it is I've seen data all over the map, in fact I have a textbook that says the buiuldup occurs in up to a 1/3 of users. I find that very dubious at best because after doing a shitload of screenings for lawsuits it was very rare, but that is just the real world experience Ive had. BTW, alot of people have leaky valves it is quite common and are called heart murmurs, sometimes if theyre more than mild, they have to take antibiotics at the dentist b/c dental work puts bacteria in the blood stream and turbulence from the leak causes microabrasions where bacteria can attach to.
I've had the same problem, I bought a heart monitor watch, and wear it constantly.results are this
rest--95bpm
ambient -sitting up and watching T.V. --no porn - 125bpm
exercise / and or porn 180 bpm
This is a constant over a week of testing.
I'm 5'10" 255
with a regimen similar to big fed minus the t3
rest--95bpm
ambient -sitting up and watching T.V. --no porn - 125bpm
exercise / and or porn 180 bpm
This is a constant over a week of testing.
I'm 5'10" 255
with a regimen similar to big fed minus the t3
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THE_BIG_FED
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Tomo said:
i like the qualifiers of "porn" and "no porn".
that ends up being important info in this case. 
i'll be minus that damn T3 in a few weeks myself bro.
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cbeaks
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Tomo said:
that's a pretty high heart rate you have there. When I get on the elliptical machine in the morning for cardio my heart rate is at about 105 after just a minute. However I have to work my ass off to get my heart rate up to 150 and that usually takes 30 minutes. I have thought about buying one of those heart monitor watches like the one you got for the same reason. I am going to go off cycle for a long time after my contest but now I am considering throwing in 12.5-25mg of t3/day for the last 3 weeks before my show and possibly some pondimin to reduce my appetite. I don't think being on this for 3 weeks will be too harmful. Any thoughts? - cbeaks
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