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Proposed "Cycle" Update/changes.

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The vets and mods know me and my history. 8 years natty now, recovering from detraining and severe vertigo disorder, was bedbound, 2 years no training, been hitting the weights again a year, medical clearance to compete in power lifting meets by docs oked.

Current stats after 4 months of heavy lifting (docs had said before this to only lift light weight so I rebuild muscle on sets of 20+ reps on compound movements for 8 months) and dieting down from 245 to 215:

Age: 35
Weight: 215 at around 20% bf (my own estimation... soft no cuts, no gut, flat stomach with mild love handles and jiggly ass)
Training: Mon-Friday powerlifting style training, full body, WSBB inspired, box squats 3x a week, a lot of speed work, extra volume work for accessory lifts and bodyparts that could use some aesthetic work.
Diet: Modified CKD, around 2500-2600 cals on keto days, around 5k on Saturday carbup. Subject to change based upon my goals month to month.

Goals: improve well being, energy, recovery, cut down to 190ish then spend the rest of the year recomping indefinitely... no desire to bulk again, only quality gains whilst staying lean. Massively increase strength, would like to get my raw squats and deadlifts over 600lbs again, and a raw bench of 405 at sub 200 lbs bw long term.

Medical issues: bi-lateral Meniere's disease (inner ear disorder), mild hypoglycemia, CVD runs in both sides of my family.

I am considering staying on at least HRT type doses year round, proposed cycle (all legally obtained under UK user-friendly laws):

For the next 20 weeks, then I may bridge on 200mg of test a week or switch to something milder like EQ with trt test dose:
500mg of organon Test ena per week
Aromasin 12.5mg eod (I have to keep water retention to a minimum with Meneire's)... I can get letro cheaper but Aromasin is cheap enough well within my budget and easier on lipid profiles which is always a concern with my family history.

I may attempt to compete in a raw meet in April if I can make weight, so using gear on my cut will be massively helpful in gaining strength in a caloric deficit at this point.

Thoughts, suggestions, concerns, ideas?
 
I think you are dead on with a Test only cycle at this point , due to the problems you have experienced in the past. You can always cut that dose back if you see you are retaining to much water. With you just starting back , the only problem I see will be water retention maybe for you at that dose which you have already incorporated Aromasin. For the future, you could incorporate EQ at 400mg to 600mg per week since you plan on doing an HRT dose of 250mg per week . I think you are on the right track to fully getting everything back to a regular cycle in no time. I love your approach of not doing multiple compounds all at once. Very nice..
 
Yeah I don't want to add too many things at once without seeing how mybody reacts to each drug, as my body has changed a lot in a decade. I know already 19-nor compounds give me a lot of sides. I get gyno extremely easily from both tren and deca. I love the size deca gives and the strength gains on tren, but I get way too many sides. I was going to go with letro at a massivly low dose and use nolva as need for HDL... but then letro can kill drive and my wife is horny all the time so it seemed simplier to spend a little more money for aromasin (which still is quite cheap here) which can boost igf-1, is easier on the lipid profile and only have to worry about one drug. I'll keep 10 letro tabs on hand in case of gyno of course.

I am on near zero carbs and low sodium most of the week so I think the aromasin will handle the rest of the water and I have diuretics on hand as a legit treatment for Meneire's.

As much as I might like the idea of adding some deca in later, I would rather not deal with the bloat or gyno. So if I add something later, and cut the test back, it will be eq for quality gains or winny to cut up (maybe for a day at the beach in the coming summers) or to make a weight class at a meet. I like 20mg of winny a day quite a lot. I noticed results on that in my stacks actually. Keep things simple.
 
I have nothing in the way of current pics, which I noticed people are asking for with cycle advice, other than one my wife took of me in my new robe... I was trying to look sexy so flashed my nipple and was trying to raise my eyebrow at her seductively about 8 days ago.

As I said before I would estimate bf at 20%. I am two pounds lighter since then (I've been dropping that every week).

http://oi41.tinypic.com/2nndk3.jpg
^^^^ sexy beast, you jelly?

As I have not yet ordered my gear I will obviously lose more fat before I start. LoL
 
Yeah I don't want to add too many things at once without seeing how mybody reacts to each drug, as my body has changed a lot in a decade. I know already 19-nor compounds give me a lot of sides. I get gyno extremely easily from both tren and deca. I love the size deca gives and the strength gains on tren, but I get way too many sides. I was going to go with letro at a massivly low dose and use nolva as need for HDL... but then letro can kill drive and my wife is horny all the time so it seemed simplier to spend a little more money for aromasin (which still is quite cheap here) which can boost igf-1, is easier on the lipid profile and only have to worry about one drug. I'll keep 10 letro tabs on hand in case of gyno of course.

I am on near zero carbs and low sodium most of the week so I think the aromasin will handle the rest of the water and I have diuretics on hand as a legit treatment for Meneire's.

As much as I might like the idea of adding some deca in later, I would rather not deal with the bloat or gyno. So if I add something later, and cut the test back, it will be eq for quality gains or winny to cut up (maybe for a day at the beach in the coming summers) or to make a weight class at a meet. I like 20mg of winny a day quite a lot. I noticed results on that in my stacks actually. Keep things simple.
^^ Exactly.. good thought out cycle and post.
 
My AI source is backlogged and out of aromasin, but had letro on hand and shipped me that instead at less than $1 a tab (considering that after I cut them up for a proper male dose I only use 1/2 of a tab a week... that is damned good). I'll switch to aromasin later this year.

My test supplier only had 20 amps on hand until next week... but the great news there he said if I would take a partial on the first he would ship the rest for no shipping and toss in 5 more amps for my trouble and not being able to fill my entire order.

I am going to be very eager to get started and feel the gear again so am temped to frontload an extra amp for 750mg my first week, but am debating this as normally I am not a fan of frontloading. Test ena tends to kick in fairly fast anyway... and as I am using letro it takes a little time to ramp up, so gaining water my first week could be a concern if I frontload. Thoughts?
 
You're able to keep sodium low on a low carb diet? You must do a shit ton of cooking...

Look into Erase by PES to possibly substitute for Aromasin. It's an OTC AI with a better KI values than Aromasin. Here's a link to a study:
Synthesis of Androst-5-en-7-ones and Androsta-3,5-dien-7-ones and Their Related 7-Deoxy Analogs as Conformational and Catalytic Probes for the Active Site of Aromatase - Journal of Medicinal Chemistry (ACS Publications)
Here's actually some good marketing material:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/aromatization-high-rate-not-so-good-719453.html

You in Europe? Peaced out on Texas huh?

Good to see you around man.
 
You're able to keep sodium low on a low carb diet? You must do a shit ton of cooking...

Look into Erase by PES to possibly substitute for Aromasin. It's an OTC AI with a better KI values than Aromasin. Here's a link to a study:
Synthesis of Androst-5-en-7-ones and Androsta-3,5-dien-7-ones and Their Related 7-Deoxy Analogs as Conformational and Catalytic Probes for the Active Site of Aromatase - Journal of Medicinal Chemistry (ACS Publications)
Here's actually some good marketing material:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/aromatization-high-rate-not-so-good-719453.html

You in Europe? Peaced out on Texas huh?

Good to see you around man.

Yep moved to UK in November (wife is British).

I cook all my food actually. Lots of meat, eggs and fresh veggies allow low carb and low sodium. Ez-mode.
 
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