From Zero to Hero? Tren / Test / Dbol Cycle Log.

[wcjcMr.O]

Dude...I dont even know what to say...

your pics are what I thought you would look like.....

not tryin to be a dick, but you look like you have NEVER stepped foot in a weight room. You seriously have ZERO business using juice, ESPECIALLY TREN.

I would of been willing to help you out if you would of chose a different route.

I bet you would make damn near comparable gains just eating right and training THE RIGHT WAY.

There is alot to it. I wanna help you man, but you seriously made a horrible decision.

I bet you would gain muscle if you did absolutely nothing but ATE THE RIGHT SHIT.....and now....your on TREN bro.

make the most of your cycle, but I urge you to reconsider and stop the cycle and start pct right away. seriously...think about what your doing man, on near a gram of gear, 172lbs? you think thats a good decision?

best of luck man....just think about it. Its not too late to get off, save the juice for later, and recover

 

[Bruvstar]

Ahhh do we really have to go back to step 1. Again, will never slay you for your advice, since it's massively appreciated.

I don't mean to cause offense. I've started, and i will finish the cycle. If you support me through the cycle, and feel the same after... I'll take it on board and stay off cycles untill i have some positive feedback.

Although, these past 4 monthsd or so, there has been significant growth, weight gain and strength.

I'm hoping, you'll be able to see past my arrogance, bite down and still help me through it. Can't stress enough, I'm NOT ignoring your advice, and do appreciate it. But will finish my cycle.

Thanks again bro.

 

[wcjcMr.O]

obviously there is nothing I can say to you to change your mind.

Good luck man. But your gains will be mediocre at best. Ive seen it 100 times. I do want the best for you....but the best is not to be on 950mg/wk juice.

So I will help you with PCT and let you learn the hard way. It honestly breaks my heart and irritates the shit out of me at the same time.

but in 6 months...you'll look the same....unless you change your mentality bro

best of luck....

 

[Bruvstar]

Muahah it feels like I need to prove this to you

Well when the cycles over, if i am like you say, which i dont doubt you, then I'll 100% follow your advice until we can agree I'm ready.

Just started the diet this morning, appetite is through the roof so really enjoying it. And thanks for supporting anyway. I understand it irritates people to be going against what they know should be right.

 

[gatemoney]

pretty sure RADAR means Nolvadex. Im not sure why, but Ive been hearing not to use it on a tren cycle. Im sure He, or someone else with experience with tren will let you know. But I would def listen to radar.....dudes a vet

and nice bro. cant wait for the pics. remember to eat and eat and eat man, your body is a furnace right now, you need ALOT of calories.

From what I understand nolvadex can aggravate prolactin issues pretty intensely, causing gyno and other nasty sides to be that much worse.
And this is true for tren and deca but, I'm not sure if it is true for all 19 nor's.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong...

 

[Bruvstar]

Very interesting ^^ Would love to know more about it. Can anyone confirm?

 

[gymjunkie09]

From what I understand nolvadex can aggravate prolactin issues pretty intensely, causing gyno and other nasty sides to be that much worse.
And this is true for tren and deca but, I'm not sure if it is true for all 19 nor's.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong...

yes this is correct

 

[gatemoney]

yes this is correct

What would you recommend he run to control prolactin and estrogen sides?
Forma? I'm sure he could get forma quicker than just about anything else if it is the right choice for him.

 

[Bruvstar]

I've actually ordered some Forma, Got some friendly advice from a friend on these forums, put the order in earlier. So if thats needed it'd be killing 2 birds with one stone.

 

[ConanX]

Yeah nolva can upregulate progesterone receptors or some shit. Use adex or letro if the gyno comes in.

Dude, like I said in my original post, nothing I say will change your mind on using AAS, specifically tren...so let me say that since you are going in hard, you have to eat like a wild man. Shove food down every 3 hours and lift weights like its your job. Hopefully your joints hold up and you can keep up with the diet. I always suggest people to get their diet 100% before using something but hopefully you are a quick learner and can do it now before you waste your precious first cycle.