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Why are natural simple sugars bad in cut

Sim882

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I'm trying to work out a cutting diet, and are wondering why natural simply sugars are so bad on a cutting diet.

The GI for milk (30) for example is below oatmeal, as is the case for some fruits. GI for yogurt is even lower. Therefore, as far as the carb source during cutting, why are the carbs in milk any worse than oatmeal?

In addition, I've read on threads here general advice to avoid milk in cutting. But many studies seem to suggest calcium from milk products increases fat oxidation, doubling weight loss during dieting.

So I'm asking, if I was to limit my carbs within sensible limits (say under 40% of my calories) during cutting, could I include 2 glasses of skim milk per day? (I'm less concerned about including fruit but wonder whether fruit is worse than lactose in milk because fructose doesn't get stored in the muscles, meaning greater chance of fat storage if liver is full of carbs)
 
The carbs in oat are better than the carbs in milk because oat also contains fiber which slows the digestion of the carbs===> insulin is mantained at a steady level.
Where have you heard that calcium,only from milk, is good? Calcium is also in hazelnuts,nuts,some vegetables, sardines(with bones),etc.
 
The studies (and we are not allowed to link on them) seem to suggest that non-dairy sources of calcium were about 1/2 as effective in fat oxidation
 
I have 2 pints of skimmed milk and I'm on a cutter, though it probably slows down my progress due to it's bloating effect, it's also a great source of calories and protein, I love the stuff personally.
 
I don't avoid milk on a cut unless I'm trying to get well below 10% bf..I truly only drink it for 2 reasons.

1.) it lets me make a protein shake that tastes like a chocolate milkshake
2.) I am convinced from the studies that is definitely healthy to take in dairy calcium (way better than any supp)

Yogurt should be avoided unless it is no sugar added
 
No added sugar yogurt has lower GI than milk in my understanding, because more acidic or something (but yes, sugar yogurt is bad).

In UK, Sainsbury sells a cheese/yogurt blend, that is (no joke) per 100 grams 13.7% protein, 0.2% fat, and something like 1% sugar.

It is cheap too. Shame they don't sell this wonder food in Australia. Perfect meal before bed with all that caisin

In US when I was in New York, they sell a low carb version of milk if I recall, which has 75% less carbs or something and is non-fat. Again shame that there is no equivalent in Australia (this low carb milk was expensive though)

poysyn said:
I don't avoid milk on a cut unless I'm trying to get well below 10% bf..I truly only drink it for 2 reasons.

1.) it lets me make a protein shake that tastes like a chocolate milkshake
2.) I am convinced from the studies that is definitely healthy to take in dairy calcium (way better than any supp)

Yogurt should be avoided unless it is no sugar added
 
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