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In DIRE need of Workout Help ASAP!!!

Hellawulf

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Alright this is the story if you wanna read it, I'm 18 years old, 6'1", 195 pounds, I've been working out since I was in the eighth grade, last year I buckled down hard core to gain and jumped to about 230 (football), then during the summer, after an injury in which I am no longer able to play contact sports, I dropped to 180, but I didn't get the body I wanted (no were close), I've gained back to 195, now a lot slower than I have in the past because I'm trying to get that perfect beach body before I go off to college. I've got about four and a half months. Currently I am working out weightlifting in the mornings before school as follows: Mon (chest/abs), Tues (legs), Wens (back/abs), Thurs (Shouders/tris) and Fri (bis/abs) (each workout is anywhere from 40 - 50 min). I do cardio after school, about 8 hours later, changing it up between interval training, long jogs, jump rope, speed ladder, speed bike. I do this on Mon, Tues, Thurs, Fri. I take Saturday and Sunday off, but I work at a Best Buy where I am always running back and forth in the store and up ladders, on my feet for hours. My current routine may just need some tweaks, or if you have a completely new idea please let me know. I am desperate to find something to get me into shape so I have that sexy physique to go off to college with. (btw the college I will be attending is on the beach).
I eat a bagle with some fruit juice, go to the gym, afterwards drink a protein shake and bananna, 2 hours later snack fiber bar, lunch - 2 sandwhiches, yogurt, apple, 2 hours later snack cheese strip, home snack cashews, dinner (whatever mom cooks).

The only requirements are that I can do the workout within an hour, it can be two seperate hours as well, one after school and one before school. I only have 4.5 months, so a 3 or 4 month program would be awesome.
 


I figured I'd post a pic, so you can see what I'm working with, atleast a little, but this is at the best possible angle, with the best possible light, I need to firm up my chest, create a six pack, lose the fat on my butt and legs, and build some arms.... lots of work to do, not a lot of time to do it...
 
dog crapp (google it) and a shit load of protein
 
dog crapp (google it) and a shit load of protein

So in Dogg Crapp, you workout on a body part with one workout, and hit it hard on that one workout, and you use two different days and thats it, so like chest workout monday, leg workout wensday, chest workout Fridays, Leg workout Monday.....?

That sounds great for trying to get bigger, which I might use next winter, but for the next three months I want to focus on shaving my body into perfect beach form... My arms need some mass, but I need to trim everything else. That may be impossible. I was thinking about P90X, but for some reason I don't trust it... though a more areobic exercise like that may work though
 
So in Dogg Crapp, you workout on a body part with one workout, and hit it hard on that one workout, and you use two different days and thats it, so like chest workout monday, leg workout wensday, chest workout Fridays, Leg workout Monday.....?

That sounds great for trying to get bigger, which I might use next winter, but for the next three months I want to focus on shaving my body into perfect beach form... My arms need some mass, but I need to trim everything else. That may be impossible. I was thinking about P90X, but for some reason I don't trust it... though a more areobic exercise like that may work though


Think in terms of building muscle/loosing bodyfat. There is no such thing as a routine that accomplishes shaving, shaping, toning, chiseling, etc.

Your routine builds the muscle and your diet manages the bodyfat (with added cardio if needed)

Make sense? If you can get over this one common mental hurdle you will be better off than most guys your age.

So your solution is a routine that builds muscle and a diet/cardio regiment that takes care of the bodyfat.

Keep your mind focused on these things and you'll be able to accept and understand advice like joe d gave without it being processed through the musclemag knowledge filter.

My personal advice is the 5x5 routine found in the stickies along with a high protein / moderate carb diet with total calories averaging right at maintenance. Perhaps 200 over on lifting days, 200 under on cardio days.

Good luck on your journey.
 
Whatever you do, please, please do not be one of those guys that essentially neglects their legs. I'm looking at your routine, and I see it mostly consists of upper body work. If you do that you will end up looking chicken legged and if the wind blew too hard you would fall over. Make these three exercises the basis for your routine:

Squat
Deadlift
Benchpress (or standing overhead press)

Then incorporate exercises around them that accentuate those movements. But those three should be your primary exercises.

B-
 
So in Dogg Crapp, you workout on a body part with one workout, and hit it hard on that one workout, and you use two different days and thats it, so like chest workout monday, leg workout wensday, chest workout Fridays, Leg workout Monday.....?

That sounds great for trying to get bigger, which I might use next winter, but for the next three months I want to focus on shaving my body into perfect beach form... My arms need some mass, but I need to trim everything else. That may be impossible. I was thinking about P90X, but for some reason I don't trust it... though a more areobic exercise like that may work though

no you work every body part 2 times in every 8 days
 
Think in terms of building muscle/loosing bodyfat. There is no such thing as a routine that accomplishes shaving, shaping, toning, chiseling, etc.

Your routine builds the muscle and your diet manages the bodyfat (with added cardio if needed)

Make sense? If you can get over this one common mental hurdle you will be better off than most guys your age.

So your solution is a routine that builds muscle and a diet/cardio regiment that takes care of the bodyfat.

Keep your mind focused on these things and you'll be able to accept and understand advice like joe d gave without it being processed through the musclemag knowledge filter.

My personal advice is the 5x5 routine found in the stickies along with a high protein / moderate carb diet with total calories averaging right at maintenance. Perhaps 200 over on lifting days, 200 under on cardio days.

Good luck on your journey.

Nothing really to add as this is great advice.

A word of warning in addition, and I am not saying this to be a dick at all. Phrases like "perfect beach form" and "arms need mass" send up all kinds of red flags around here. Generally they mean said poster has been sucked into a world of muscle mag BS and, despite the best intentions and probably being perfectly nice individuals, will probably need a bit of tough love to clean out said BS. For instance, if you want arm mass, almost everyone here is going to tell you to eat more and do deadlifts - not deadlifts in addition to curls, but deadlifts and MAYBE some curls. Why? Because it works. Almost all of us here will try our damndest to make you realize that whether you want a beach bod, a 400 pound bench, or to be a powerlift that it all starts with squats and deads.

Just thought I would try to say that succinctly in one post. I mean, Bill Starr is a minor saint around these parts ;-)

Best of luck with your training!
 
Nothing really to add as this is great advice.

A word of warning in addition, and I am not saying this to be a dick at all. Phrases like "perfect beach form" and "arms need mass" send up all kinds of red flags around here. Generally they mean said poster has been sucked into a world of muscle mag BS and, despite the best intentions and probably being perfectly nice individuals, will probably need a bit of tough love to clean out said BS. For instance, if you want arm mass, almost everyone here is going to tell you to eat more and do deadlifts - not deadlifts in addition to curls, but deadlifts and MAYBE some curls. Why? Because it works. Almost all of us here will try our damndest to make you realize that whether you want a beach bod, a 400 pound bench, or to be a powerlift that it all starts with squats and deads.

Just thought I would try to say that succinctly in one post. I mean, Bill Starr is a minor saint around these parts ;-)

Best of luck with your training!

lol, that second paragraph should be a sticky. That was the most polite way of putting it that i've heard around here.

To the OP, most of the advice posted so far points to this as your routine:

Bill Starr 5x5 - Madcow Intermediate or Linear Version

Read the whole page, then download the spreadsheet at the bottom. Don't fuck up the load! The load is possibly the most important thing. Week to week progression is the key.

This routine will put muscle all over your body. You'll have to unlearn all that you have learned in order to see this though.

Add a clean diet using calorie levels i mentioned above and you will have a "beach body" that will destroy the other guys your age that are doing tons of concentration db curls and tricep rope pushdowns.

Good luck
 
I didn't realize that deadlifts were so important.... thanks for the advice, tough love is great, and yeah in the world of fitness, I know some, but probably comapared to you guys I don't know anything... again thanks for the advice.
 
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