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[Tom Treutlein]

Cool, thanks for getting those out of the way. Sorry to be a pain, but I'm still curious as to why so many fats exist. 43% of total cals.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Ok, sorry for the delay. I've been out of town for a couple of days. The fat was not intentinal. I think for most men 30% if probably ideal. One could reduce the olive oil intake, go with leaner cuts of steak on sale (chuch is a very fatty cut) which would have more protien and less fat. WHich would lower the fat and raise the protien. Personally I don't spend a great deal of time working on exact micronutrient ratios. There is an advantage to the higher fat intake though. Increasing fat intake has been shown to eleveate testosterone production as the intake got higher, up to 40-45%. You mentioned natural individuals. This is of great beenfit to them. Also, by increasing fat intake, one adds additional calories that have no glycemic index, thus not insulin response, and the more fat added to a meal the lower the glycemic index of the carbs in said meal. These two factors will make the diet less fattening to individuals attempting to eat a large amount of calories, yet limit gains in body fat.

I hope I made sense, I was talking to a girl until 2:30 am on the phone, then dozed off, got up and checked my EF messages (its 6 am here). If not, let me know and I'll address this again when I'm fully awake.

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Haha understood it perfectly my man, thanks for the quick response. I've been on the phone 'til even later hours, gabbing about like a preteen. Don't worry, it's all good.

So, what would be a leaner cut that's rather cheap? Or, could I add some boneless and skinless chicken breast instead?

Also, what I noticed about the steak was that on CalorieKing, it gets close to your numbers, but only with 24 oz. of lean and fat steak (1/4" trim). Does this mean I have to eat the fatty part to get those nutrients?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

No, you can trim away the fat and replace it with olive oil or natty peanut butter. I do not find boneless skinless chicken brest to be high enough in saturated fat to yield optimal gains for non-enhanced atheletes. You guys need it in order to keep your testosterone levels elevated.

I have books to get my numbers from.

 

[Tom Treutlein]

http://www.healthandage.com/Home/gid2=2809

Fuck. Red meat, bad. Fish, mercury poisoning. Chicken, shot down. Powders, digest too quick. What. The. Fuck.

 

[L_Seven]

thanks, BBF

 

[landser]

2x bodyweight for protein? bah. Im eating 500-550g at 190lbs.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

2x bodyweight for protein? bah. Im eating 500-550g at 190lbs.

I've done the 600 gram a day thing. It didn't yeild any faster gains than half that amount for me, in all honesty.

 

[daos]

I've done the 600 gram a day thing. It didn't yeild any faster gains than half that amount for me, in all honesty.

so basically, eat this meal once a day with a suppliment, and thats it?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

so basically, eat this meal once a day with a suppliment, and thats it?

What? Are you out of your mind?