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Starting first cycle soon. It's oral only (H-Drol). Pls critique

indringa

New member
Hi folks,

I've been lurking, doing research, and getting my details together for my cycle soon. I wanted to run them past this community for comments before I begin... :)

Background and Game Plan:
This is my first PH cycle. I have been training for nearly 4 years naturally and seriously. I've read up on the use of PH's for about several months before agreeing with myself to use them. During this cycle, I plan on lean bulking on 2,500 calories consisting with a P/C/F split of 40/35/25. I got my bloodwork done beforehand, too.

Personal Stats
28 years old
5'11" and 190lbs, 14% BF
Total Testosterone: 542 ng/dL out of 1197 ng/dL
Free Testosterone: 13.1 ng/dL out of 26.5 pg/mL


So here are the details for my first H-Drol cycle...

On-Cycle:
- MrSupps Helladrol for 6 weeks: 75/75/75/100/100/125
- Taurine 3g daily (for reported back pumps)
- Forged Liver Support, preload 2 weeks then 1-10
- Forma Stanzol, weeks 1-10

Post-Cycle:
- Forged Post Cycle, 4 weeks
- Nolva, 4 weeks (20/20/10/10)
- Forma Stanzol, weeks 1-10

Staples:
Whey and Casein
Orange Triad Multivitamin
2g Fish Oil daily
ZMA nightly
1.R.M. on workout days

Questions:
1) Should I dose the H-Drol more mildly at 50/75/75/75/100/100 because I'm new?
2) Your thoughts on these supplements during the Cycle? If and when required? And dosages? (I have all these supplements on hand).:
- Creatine: 5 grams a day on cycle and in PCT
- DAA: 3 grams a day on cycle and in PCT
- HCGenerate: the 2 last weeks of the cycle and the full 4 weeks of PCT?
- Triazole: ??
3) TIMING? When is the best time to take Hdrol?Does taking it with 1 tbs of olive oil help absorption?
4) Should I use the Forma Stanzol for all 10 weeks, and what's the recommended dosing?
5) I should load up on a liver support sup for 2 weeks before a cycle and use it through the whole cycle, even through PCT?
6) Do you think it'd be okay to buy CEL's Cycle Assist and then when that runs out start the Forged Liver? I'm asking because Cycle Assist is just a tad cheaper to buy than another Forged Liver :)

I know they're two different brands with different ingredient compositions, but there won't be any negative feedback, right?

Kinda like Nolva, Clomid, and Torem are slightly different from each other but are used for PCT?


Anyways!I welcome any constructive comments, questions, suggestions regarding the entire cycle! Especially tell me if I have too much overlap of certain supplements, or not enough.

Thanks guys,
Henry
 
1-6 hella 75/75/75/100/100/125
1-6 katana 4 caps a day
1-6 n2guard
1-6 HCGenerate
3-10 forma stanzol mrsupps.com

PCT 7-10

[FONT=&quot]clomid 25/25/25/25
Unleashed/post cycle combo
daa powerchews or powder

optional
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com



you dont need olive oil for absorption man... take first dose of hella in the morning... 4 hours later take first dose of cycle assist... 4 hours later last dose of hella... 4 hours later last dose of cycle assist... you don't need daa on cycle...
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1-6 hella 75/75/75/100/100/125
1-6 katana 4 caps a day
1-6 n2guard
1-6 HCGenerate
3-10 forma stanzol mrsupps.com

PCT 7-10

[FONT=&quot]clomid 25/25/25/25
Unleashed/post cycle combo
daa powerchews or powder

optional
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals. com



you dont need olive oil for absorption man... take first dose of hella in the morning... 4 hours later take first dose of cycle assist... 4 hours later last dose of hella... 4 hours later last dose of cycle assist... you don't need daa on cycle...
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Thanks for the first reply :) It was useful. I have some comments...

1) N2 Guard is just a liver support supp, right? Like my Forged Liver I already have?

2) Will HGGenerate be wasted on cycle if it naturally boosts testosterone, but my testosterone production will be shut down? Is it better in PCT?

3) How come Forma Stanzol should be started 3 weeks in and not the first two?

4) DAA is cheap and I already have a tub on hand. No harm in using it still though, right?
 
Listen to Dylan, dude is a wizard. I would throw some HCGenerate/Need2slin/creatine nitrate on cycle and Lean Xtreme with your PCT for a good cut. Goodluck, i'm starting 5 week and i fucking love it.
 
Thanks for the first reply :) It was useful. I have some comments...

1) N2 Guard is just a liver support supp, right? Like my Forged Liver I already have?

2) Will HGGenerate be wasted on cycle if it naturally boosts testosterone, but my testosterone production will be shut down? Is it better in PCT?

3) How come Forma Stanzol should be started 3 weeks in and not the first two?

4) DAA is cheap and I already have a tub on hand. No harm in using it still though, right?

N2guard is FAR more than liver support!! It helps with bp, lipids, etc... Liver support is nit enough...

Hcgenerate helps to prevent or slow on cycle shutdown making your transition into pct much easier...

Forma is not needed on the entire cycle... Your running something that has a very low to no conversion of estrogen... It will keep you dry on cycle and prevent rebound in pct...
 
N2guard is FAR more than liver support!! It helps with bp, lipids, etc... Liver support is nit enough...

Hcgenerate helps to prevent or slow on cycle shutdown making your transition into pct much easier...

Forma is not needed on the entire cycle... Your running something that has a very low to no conversion of estrogen... It will keep you dry on cycle and prevent rebound in pct...

Thanks "wizard dylan" :)

Do you think I should save the Forma all together for a compound (in the future) that does aromatise?
 
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