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I have lost 142 lbs and now I am at a pleatu

Mr.X said:
I'll be in bold so you can tell what I'm writing
weight - 215
height 5'6
body fat 24.7
first, let's start with your basic BMR, BMR (basal metabolic rate) - weight x 12 = 2580 calories, 5% deficit will put you at 2451 calories /day

meal 1 4:30 am fruit
replace fruit with 1/4 cup of walnuts + 8oz. of vegetable juice
8:00 go lean cereal 1 cup
yogart
drop yogurt, drop cereal
add 1 cup oatmeal
add 3 egg whites
add 1 tbsp. UDO's choice oil


meal 2 11:30 turkey or tuna 3/4 oz.
veggies
piece of pumpernickle bread
fruit
drop fruit,
increase portion of turkey or tuna to at least 2oz. if you're doing 3/4th of an oz. or 5 oz. if you're doing 3-4oz.
add 1 tbsp. flaxseed oil


meal 3 2:00 salad with veggies or soy nuts or almonds 1 serving
add 2 oz. of chicken breast to the salad + 1 tbsp. of olive oil
use walnuts instead of almonds


meal 4 before work out - 5:00 3 or 4 oz of protein, cliff bar,
replace with a protein shake or a protein bar with less sugar in it

meal 5 after workout 8:00 4 - 6 oz meat lean only, veggies, serving of grain ( whole grainonly brown)
add 1 tbsp. UDO's choice to the meal

add: before bed
2 tbsp. of FIBER
20 gr protein (egg white) + 1 tbsp. Flaxseed oil


SUNDAY: you will have 3 cheat meals, meaning 3 meals of things you crave during the week.
-this will help your T4-T3 conversion in the liver (liver glycogen) and increase leptin levels


this is just a snap shot I try and eat different all the time, or I eat all different sorts of things and as far as snaks go I try and eat 1600 calories a day so I may add snaks depending on my caloric intake at the time.
your caloric intake is about 900 calories +/- under what you should be eating - you need to EAT to lose weight. Right now, you're in starvation mode and you're overtraining. The body is a machine that loves homeostasis, if you're eating too little and training too much - the body tends to hold on to as much fat as it can. Overtraining is especially a big factor for women


workouts - the time can very

Monday - 2:00 eliptical 1 hour HR140
5:45 Aerobic class cardio the whole time
Tuesday walk 40 minutes bike 20 minutes HR at 130 - 140
6:00 eliptical 1 hour hr 135 - 140
Wednesday Elipitcal 1 hour (time noon - 5:00 anytime in there)
5:45 Class definitions 1 hour cardio and weights HR 140
Thursday walk 40 min. bike 20 min HR 120 - 130
Eliptical 1 hour HR 140
Friday 9:30 am calss 75 minutes, body training HR moderate 120 130
6:00 p.m. Eliptical 1 hour


let's start slow
for the next 2 weeks: week 1-2
you will only go to the gym, Mon/ Wed. / Friday

week 3-4:
you will start weight training on friday instead of cardio
-light full body workouts are fine for now

week 5-6:
Mon - weight training (upper body)
Tuesday - weight training (lower body)
Wed + Thursday - 45 minutes of cardio


female training advise: visit the womens' forum here on EF

Wow that would be a big change for me I would not get any fruits and calicum. I am not weight trainning so I do think that is too many calories. I think what you said is wonderful and you know what you are talking about but I would feel like I was cheating if I ate that much fat.

Thank you for your imput, I will have to think about this and see if I am brave enough to do it!!!
 
Iammotivated said:
Wow that would be a big change for me I would not get any fruits and calicum. I am not weight trainning so I do think that is too many calories. I think what you said is wonderful and you know what you are talking about but I would feel like I was cheating if I ate that much fat.

Thank you for your imput, I will have to think about this and see if I am brave enough to do it!!!

If you don't eat, you'll never break thru the plateau. Unlike the popular myths that tell you to eat less, lately eating more has become a scientific fact - your body needs to be FED to let go of the fat you have. If your body has no fat intake, it will not let go of the fat you already have - you would be cheating yourself by not taking in the fats. You're overtraining and undereating, it's a great way to take the road to failure. You should read up on EFAs and benefits; plus, read the problems of high fructose intake which converts to fat 4x more then other forms of carbs. Lastly, read about female overtraining, it's a common phenomenon, which leads most women to quit their regiments and go back to gaining the weight back.

Also, "fruits and calicum"? you should be taking external supplements daily for calcium, vitamin/mineral and anti-oxidant intake.
 
Iammotivated said:
You will all be happy to know that I lost another three lbs. so I have lost 145 lbs now whooo hoooo I am happy :D

good job! we are very proud of you :) keep up the hard work.
 
Iammotivated said:
You will all be happy to know that I lost another three lbs. so I have lost 145 lbs now whooo hoooo I am happy :D

Great job bro. I started at 380 a year ago. I have lost 175 pounds. It feels great to get closer and closer to your goal.
 
Great job on the 145lb. weight loss! Did you end up changing your diet/adding supplements to get that extra three pounds off? This board is probably the best place on the internet for getting great advice on anything bodybuilding/fitness related. (I wish the internet was around in the early 90's.) I was fat all the up until 8th or 9th grade when my dad got me a Flex Magazine on New Years. Huge insult at the time, but it ended up being the best thing that ever happened. Anyways, good luck and let us know how you're doing.
 
iammotivated - that is some friggen amazing work you 've accomplished! I will second, third and forth what Mr. X said. You've managed to basically starve down your body and drop a lot of bodyfat in the process. The thing is that there is a point where your body will start to slow down its metabolic rate because it understands that it is not getting enough of the fuel it needs to run efficiently. With work output you are demanding from your body and the amount you are fueling w/, it is startign to freak out and wants to hold on to the energy sources it has because it thinks it is going thru a famine period.

As mentioned, food cycling is one way to start manipulating your metabolism to get it to respond optimally. Where you are now, it will simply refuse to respond optimally. With what you are feeding it, it is slowing down the burn rate (thus the stall out / plateau) and is probably also starting to look to your muscle mass as well as a fuel source. You want your BODYFAT to drop, and the weight just sort of comes w/ that but shouldnt' really be your focus.

I've been playing around in amateur competitive bodybuilding the last five yrs - I started when I was 35 and most recently competed at age 40. It definitely becomes a bit harder to get your metabolism to respond like it used to age 25 - but that just means you have to get more creative and more fine-tuned w/ your dieting. For me it was important to preserve my muscle mass while dropping bodyfat down to levels like 7-8% (note - not maintained at that levell - just that level for competition time and then you ease back up to around 14% for maintenance).

As Mr. X said, if you eat at a huge deficit your body will simply slow down its burn rate, which you will observe as a "plateau". Now you want to fuel your body so it will burn optimally. This means feeding it exactly what it needs to produce the energy you are requiring of it to do all this cardio. If you look at a competition style diet, you will see there there is no excess sugar source, enough good quality carb to run but not to be stored as fat, and enough good quality fats to keep everythinig "well lubed" and supply somethign to run on when the carb is burned up. And of course, enough protein so that you can support / maintain your muscle.

To that end, the changes to your diet that Mr. X indicated:
- toss the fruit - this is a simple sugar that is burned up quickly but doesnt' really provide you much to run on - they provide good enzymes that help you shuttle out waste & food byproduct in your system, but you can also forgo the fruit for awhile in order to get you down to the bodyfat you want, and then run a detox diet or something later to get that clean up process back into play -- you are better off keepigin your "simple carbs" to green leafy veggies like spinach, broccoli, asparagus and then include some good quality complex carbs like brown rice, oatmeal (not quick oats or the flavored stuff in the single serving bag) and potatos or sweet potatos. Fats are a necessity in a good balanced diet - and just because they are called fats does not mean that they turn into bodyfat
- yogurt - ya its good for you but you can also take acidophilis pills instead of the yogurt -there's a lot of simple sugar in yogurt that isn't helping you.
- clif bar -- protein bars, and esp those "energy bars" are ok but they aren't going to get you to where you are trying to go any faster. I'd toss this completely and go to real food and get a better source of carb in there, e.g. a sweet potato.

Now given all this, one of the most useful tools in the diet arsenal of a competitor is carb cycling -- this is what helps you optimize your metabolism -- you can run it several different ways, but the point is to cycle low / med / high carbs over a 3-4 day period so your body is always running like it expects to have sufficient carbs to run on, but you have a few days to actually feed yourself lower amount of carbs (e.g. just veggies for 2 days) before your body actually realizes there is less carb (energy source) coming in than it expected and then starts to slow down the metabolic rate to match the drop in carb source and preserve the energy sources (bodyfat) that it has available in your body.

Hope that starts to make sense. Where you are at now, your body simply has decided that it cant' continue to run at the rate you have been running it w/ very little fuel (calories) and a lot of training demand (over training). So it is just slowign down to hold on to the energy sources (bodyfat) that it has stored. Now you need to increase the amount you are eating such that your body will start to burn at a more efficient rate but not eat so much that any of it gets stored as bodyfat.

I'd suggest you take a drop by the EF Ladies board and say hi! You will find a lot of the girls pursuing your same goals and following the process that I've described above. Its just a more detailed way to manipulate your metabolism. The biggest impediment to especially women being able to get a fit & healthy body is the bullshit diet & nutrition myths that the popular media propogates. The way to a fit body is counter intuitive - but , yes, you do have to eat to lose bodyfat!

Hope to see you over on the women's board -- you'll get great answers, support and all sorts of interesting discussion related to the stuff you are experiencing! And I guarantee that your progress will inspire the girls!
 
alex2678 said:
Great job on the 145lb. weight loss! Did you end up changing your diet/adding supplements to get that extra three pounds off? This board is probably the best place on the internet for getting great advice on anything bodybuilding/fitness related. (I wish the internet was around in the early 90's.) I was fat all the up until 8th or 9th grade when my dad got me a Flex Magazine on New Years. Huge insult at the time, but it ended up being the best thing that ever happened. Anyways, good luck and let us know how you're doing.

I did not change anything, I really think that it is muscle, I am doing strengh trainning now and I did not do that before, people have been saying my body looks different latley so it is changing.
 
Sassy69 said:
iammotivated - that is some friggen amazing work you 've accomplished! I will second, third and forth what Mr. X said. You've managed to basically starve down your body and drop a lot of bodyfat in the process. The thing is that there is a point where your body will start to slow down its metabolic rate because it understands that it is not getting enough of the fuel it needs to run efficiently. With work output you are demanding from your body and the amount you are fueling w/, it is startign to freak out and wants to hold on to the energy sources it has because it thinks it is going thru a famine period.

As mentioned, food cycling is one way to start manipulating your metabolism to get it to respond optimally. Where you are now, it will simply refuse to respond optimally. With what you are feeding it, it is slowing down the burn rate (thus the stall out / plateau) and is probably also starting to look to your muscle mass as well as a fuel source. You want your BODYFAT to drop, and the weight just sort of comes w/ that but shouldnt' really be your focus.

I've been playing around in amateur competitive bodybuilding the last five yrs - I started when I was 35 and most recently competed at age 40. It definitely becomes a bit harder to get your metabolism to respond like it used to age 25 - but that just means you have to get more creative and more fine-tuned w/ your dieting. For me it was important to preserve my muscle mass while dropping bodyfat down to levels like 7-8% (note - not maintained at that levell - just that level for competition time and then you ease back up to around 14% for maintenance).

As Mr. X said, if you eat at a huge deficit your body will simply slow down its burn rate, which you will observe as a "plateau". Now you want to fuel your body so it will burn optimally. This means feeding it exactly what it needs to produce the energy you are requiring of it to do all this cardio. If you look at a competition style diet, you will see there there is no excess sugar source, enough good quality carb to run but not to be stored as fat, and enough good quality fats to keep everythinig "well lubed" and supply somethign to run on when the carb is burned up. And of course, enough protein so that you can support / maintain your muscle.

To that end, the changes to your diet that Mr. X indicated:
- toss the fruit - this is a simple sugar that is burned up quickly but doesnt' really provide you much to run on - they provide good enzymes that help you shuttle out waste & food byproduct in your system, but you can also forgo the fruit for awhile in order to get you down to the bodyfat you want, and then run a detox diet or something later to get that clean up process back into play -- you are better off keepigin your "simple carbs" to green leafy veggies like spinach, broccoli, asparagus and then include some good quality complex carbs like brown rice, oatmeal (not quick oats or the flavored stuff in the single serving bag) and potatos or sweet potatos. Fats are a necessity in a good balanced diet - and just because they are called fats does not mean that they turn into bodyfat
- yogurt - ya its good for you but you can also take acidophilis pills instead of the yogurt -there's a lot of simple sugar in yogurt that isn't helping you.
- clif bar -- protein bars, and esp those "energy bars" are ok but they aren't going to get you to where you are trying to go any faster. I'd toss this completely and go to real food and get a better source of carb in there, e.g. a sweet potato.

Now given all this, one of the most useful tools in the diet arsenal of a competitor is carb cycling -- this is what helps you optimize your metabolism -- you can run it several different ways, but the point is to cycle low / med / high carbs over a 3-4 day period so your body is always running like it expects to have sufficient carbs to run on, but you have a few days to actually feed yourself lower amount of carbs (e.g. just veggies for 2 days) before your body actually realizes there is less carb (energy source) coming in than it expected and then starts to slow down the metabolic rate to match the drop in carb source and preserve the energy sources (bodyfat) that it has available in your body.

Hope that starts to make sense. Where you are at now, your body simply has decided that it cant' continue to run at the rate you have been running it w/ very little fuel (calories) and a lot of training demand (over training). So it is just slowign down to hold on to the energy sources (bodyfat) that it has stored. Now you need to increase the amount you are eating such that your body will start to burn at a more efficient rate but not eat so much that any of it gets stored as bodyfat.

I'd suggest you take a drop by the EF Ladies board and say hi! You will find a lot of the girls pursuing your same goals and following the process that I've described above. Its just a more detailed way to manipulate your metabolism. The biggest impediment to especially women being able to get a fit & healthy body is the bullshit diet & nutrition myths that the popular media propogates. The way to a fit body is counter intuitive - but , yes, you do have to eat to lose bodyfat!

Hope to see you over on the women's board -- you'll get great answers, support and all sorts of interesting discussion related to the stuff you are experiencing! And I guarantee that your progress will inspire the girls!


Hi thank you for posting sassy, I do think I need to clear somethings up that I may have not explained enough. I think people are under the impression that I starve my self and I certinally do not. Right now I am eating 1600 1700 calories a day but that has been recently. I was eating 2000 a day when I started my weight loss then went to 1800, I also do not include my vegtables in my calories and I gurantee I eat at LEAST 200 calories in them a day.

I do understand what you are saying and I do think it is helpful, but I dont want to drop my fruits, I think they carry a lot of anti oxidents and other important nuterints that are important in a diet.

I will stop by the girls board and say hi,

thanks for the input!
 
Iammotivated said:
Hi thank you for posting sassy, I do think I need to clear somethings up that I may have not explained enough. I think people are under the impression that I starve my self and I certinally do not. Right now I am eating 1600 1700 calories a day but that has been recently. I was eating 2000 a day when I started my weight loss then went to 1800, I also do not include my vegtables in my calories and I gurantee I eat at LEAST 200 calories in them a day.

I do understand what you are saying and I do think it is helpful, but I dont want to drop my fruits, I think they carry a lot of anti oxidents and other important nuterints that are important in a diet.

I will stop by the girls board and say hi,

thanks for the input!

Actually, you are starving yourself. Your BMR is almost a 1000 calories over your caloric intake, it's only a matter of time until you start gaining weight due to stravation and overtraining.

BTW: the word "starvation" is used loosely, it doesn't literally mean you're starving to death eating 1 cup of rice and 1 cup of veggies per day. What it means is that your BODY is starving, and it needs food - fat intake too. It will hold on to the bodyfat and let go of your muscle mass until one day it's not enough, and your body will lower it's metabolic rate to suit the low caloric intake. At that point, you are on your way to a crash and weight gain (fat gain to be exact).

Haven't you wondered why obese individuals seem to eat very little food but stay at 400-600lbs.? that is because it takes less to maintain then to gain, as your body can adapt to the environment.
 
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