First post, GH & Anavar

[superqt4u2nv]

Feb 27-March 14: .5 IU gh
March 15-present: 1 IU gh, split AM and PM doses

March 9-present: 5mg Var

Feb 27th my weight was at 152 lbs. Now about 3 weeks later, I'm at 157 lbs and its messing with my head quite a bit! I'm sooooooo noticeably retaining water around my midsection and its driving me crazy. Water is at 1.5gal per day... no more headaches, AMAZING strength during lifting, midsection is completely watery, BAD.

Weekly average calories at 1400. KETOgenic diet, cardio 6x per week, 40mins. Carb ups Mon & Thurs.

Superqt: Could you tell me your experiences with this? How long til water retention dies down or what to do about it in the meanwhile? Its really messing with my head trying to cut down for competition while I'm shooting way up on the scale and completely watery looking.

I found gh made me hold water as well so I only used it for one contest prep now I will only use it in the off season. Everyone is diffrent I know there are many that can use them and not hold much water at all. Besides the mid section being watery are you leaning out else where?

 

[slat1]

Ok so I've been 9 days on gh, low-dose .5 IU so far. Gonna add in var starting tomorrow 5mg only for now. Visually, fat loss is continuing with my nutrition and training--great there. So tell me though, as a woman on my first cycle, is it possible that I really am noticing/feeling harder and stronger after just mere days on such a low dose?

The last time I took dbol I had someone notice the first day I took it!!! I couldn't believe it. They walked right up and said "wtf are you taking? Its obvious".
I thought that might have been random until the next day two more people at the gym said something. It might not be in your head!

 

[KiLLeR12]

I found gh made me hold water as well so I only used it for one contest prep now I will only use it in the off season. Everyone is diffrent I know there are many that can use them and not hold much water at all. Besides the mid section being watery are you leaning out else where?

Besides the watery midsection, yes, I have noticed a difference in my upper/mid back, my trouble-spot!! As a woman, I don't hold fat normally like in the lower half of waist/hips/thighs... so I'm sure that there is fat reduction since my most noticeable fat-storage area has cut up a bit more. I guess I'll deal with the watered-out look since I'm already drinking 1.5gal per day and I'll just cut the gh 4-5 weeks before competition and draw everything back in. Wish there was something to do to combat it now though and settle my girly-brain.

 

[KiLLeR12]

The last time I took dbol I had someone notice the first day I took it!!! I couldn't believe it. They walked right up and said "wtf are you taking? Its obvious".
I thought that might have been random until the next day two more people at the gym said something. It might not be in your head!

The IFBB Pro that's helping me said he is noticing an "entire recomposition" compared to what I looked like last year and people are commenting that my face is "drawing out" and looking thinner so I'm sure that something good is going on here.

I'll relax on the water-holding thing and stick to the long-term plan for now. Being 157 lbs and about 16% bf doesn't sound so bad after all, haha

 

[slat1]

Everyone holds a bit of water from GH. Most AIDS patients didn't take what they were directed due to the pain it cause from swelling. The old sausage finger effect.
Don't worry about the weight. You will be pleased with your results!

 

[KiLLeR12]

Everyone holds a bit of water from GH. Most AIDS patients didn't take what they were directed due to the pain it cause from swelling. The old sausage finger effect.
Don't worry about the weight. You will be pleased with your results!

Yeah I get a little bit of plumped up tingly fingers first thing in the morning... but I always got that all my life from sleeping with my hands tucked underneath my head... but its a bit more tingly now, nothing terrible.

The initial extra weight within 3 weeks was just a small shock at first, haha...

 

[slat1]

That is too funny. I would alternate which hand I put under my pillow so it would not cramp up too!

 

[KiLLeR12]

That is too funny. I would alternate which hand I put under my pillow so it would not cramp up too!

Haha, how am I gonna know to alternate while im sleeping!?

I'm really pleased I haven't had any other issues than tingly fingers and headaches the first 2 weeks that ended just as quickly. It's wild being on a ketogenic diet with barely any carbs and being full and hard all the time...

Oh and on Thursday when I carbed up, damn! Those carbs sucked the water right outta my mid-section and it was tight once again, just from that one little carb up. I am excited to see in a few months when I finish this all and do final contest prep what I'll look like!

For now, I'm gonna log my stats so I have somewhere to keep track:
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 157
Chest: 42"
Shoulders: 46.5"
Waist: 27"
Hips: 35.5"
Biceps: 13"
Quads: 22"
Calf: 15"

 

[KiLLeR12]

I must say... I'm starting to dread "weigh in day" on Saturday mornings. I've really gotta try harder to keep my head straight here. Weight is up to 160 lbs now and my bodybuilding coach told me last night I looked F'n AMAZING---his exact words.

I feel like I look like hell and I'm even questioning whether I'm leaning out or not!? I guess I'm just surprised I'm lifting 5x per week, cardio for 50mins 6x per week and eating 1400 cals and GAINING on the scale still. I've been on gh for a little over a month still and var for 3 weeks and my strength is incredible and my measurements are going up--quads/biceps/shoulders look big...

I feel like I'm not getting the leaning out effects I'm trying for and my brain is having a hard time with seeing the number climb each week. When beginning the gear, I know weight gain was a probability of occurring but being that its my first time using, I'm surprised and nervous I'm gonna spend the next 2-3 months on and still not be leaning out like I thought I would.

Around here, anavar is thought of as the "spring cutting cycle" for female competitors and I'm working with an IFBB 20 year pro so I'm sure he's got everything handled, but my head is really messing with me on this not leaning out as much as I thought...

 

[slat1]

Haha, how am I gonna know to alternate while im sleeping!?

I would switch sides that I was laying on when the cramping in the hand that wasn't under the pillow would drive me crazy. Left side, left hand under the pillow. Right side, right hand etc.