Drinking Winny (Not what ya think)

[pitbulls3489]

thats what id like2 know

 

[Tux]

You can only drink 17aa steroids. Meaning, only winstrol that I know of. Well, injectable dbol you can drink as well. Oil-based gear like test/deca/eq etc, have no 17aa modification and will be almost totally destroyed by the first-pass effect of the liver. So no, you can't drink test suspension, only winny.

 

[Makavelli]

As far as I know the oil based is also 17 AA, so you'd be able to drink it. I wouldn't recommend it though. The reason for drinking the water based is because it fucking kills to inject.

 

[MASSIVE1000]

I tried injectable twice. Once with QV's stanol 100, once with my homemade PEG-based winny at 50mg/ml. The QV HURT like a bitch but I tolerated 50mg/day for just over 2 weeks, long enough to tell that I couldn't tell a difference from tabs. Same thing with my homemade PEG-based winny, 50mg/day for the full 4 weeks. This stuff didn't hurt a BIT so that's why I made it all 4 weeks... but again, I couldn't tell a difference at all from tabs. Since I make my own gear now for the most part, inj. vs. oral isn't much different in price for me anymore... so I just take tabs. I do split my dosage up into 3 divided doses per day so my blood levels stay much more stable. Just offering a different opinion. I'm sure for some, perhaps many, injectable works better. Hell, if I had blood tests run I might find that injectable was giving me higher and/or more stable levels also... however, just from outward signs and experience, I can't tell a difference so I only use tabs or caps now... I save my ED pokes for 100mg of lovely tren

I've got some peg based winny but I have been holding off on taking it just because I read somewhere that the peg based hurts like a bitch!

 

[MASSIVE1000]

I Know you can drink winny but what i don't know is can you drink both water and oil based or can you only drink water

sorry for the dumb question but i never have seen it posted



Thanks again

You can drink both.

 

[Tux]

Mak, well yes if you had oil-based or peg-based winny, yes you could still drink it. I thought he meant oil-based vs water-based gear period. As long as it's 17aa you can take it orally no matter what medium it's suspended/dissolved in. Massive1000, PEG-based depends on the person. I've made some winny in PEG200 that doesn't hurt me a bit, 50mg/ml. Most of the other people who have made winny in PEG with my formula didn't have much pain either, however a few said it hurt just about as much as water-based winny. So you can't really tell with PEG... just give it a shot, no pun intended, and if it hurts, you can still drink the shit, just put it in an empty capsule or something, PEG tastes horrible

 

[Makavelli]

Mak, well yes if you had oil-based or peg-based winny, yes you could still drink it. I thought he meant oil-based vs water-based gear period. As long as it's 17aa you can take it orally no matter what medium it's suspended/dissolved in. Massive1000, PEG-based depends on the person. I've made some winny in PEG200 that doesn't hurt me a bit, 50mg/ml. Most of the other people who have made winny in PEG with my formula didn't have much pain either, however a few said it hurt just about as much as water-based winny. So you can't really tell with PEG... just give it a shot, no pun intended, and if it hurts, you can still drink the shit, just put it in an empty capsule or something, PEG tastes horrible

That's what I figured you meant Tux. I'd love to try some oil based winstrol...

 

[bicepts101]

it only makes sense that injecting would work better. lets look at why regular injectables work in the first place...simply cause they are put directly into the blood stream and bypass the liver initially. 17aa's are injested and go straight to the liver and are broken down to where around 80% of the drug is absorbed. where as u can inject it and get similar absorbtion as injectables in the 90% range....logically it makes perfect sense.

people tend to think that it would be the same but technically there is no way. sure u could get similar results but most notice a difference and some dont.

as far as toxicity, i think that it is still very hard on the liver cause methyl steroids are difficult to break down by the liver for a reason.

 

[Bruce]

i find that if inject 50mg ed i need to drink 75mg if i want the same effect

 

[nydj66]

it only makes sense that injecting would work better. lets look at why regular injectables work in the first place...simply cause they are put directly into the blood stream and bypass the liver initially. 17aa's are injested and go straight to the liver and are broken down to where around 80% of the drug is absorbed. where as u can inject it and get similar absorbtion as injectables in the 90% range....logically it makes perfect sense.

people tend to think that it would be the same but technically there is no way. sure u could get similar results but most notice a difference and some dont.

as far as toxicity, i think that it is still very hard on the liver cause methyl steroids are difficult to break down by the liver for a reason.

This is correct; a small but significant percentage of the winny is broken down on the first pass through the liver when taken orally.

But as far as liver toxicity there isn't much difference, the liver filters the entire volume of the body's blood every 30 minutes and will eventually have to break down all of the 17AA gear you use whether it be oral or injected.