Thanks for sharing brother. I see guys all the time post threads saying "can I gain on x cycle?", and I laugh. I always respond the same thing.....of course you can......you can gain without PEDs. Some people are under the assumption that they need PEDs to see real gains. Not true at all. PEDs just help get you that little bit you couldn't get naturally. If you are not already giving 100% in diet and training, unfortunately PEDs are only going to help you get where you could have got to naturally with a little hard work.