First post, GH & Anavar

[KiLLeR12]

Hi everyone. I've been lurking for a while, but this is my first post on the forum. I'd like a few opinions on how to run a successful gh & anavar cycle.

Current stats:
24 year old female
5'7" height
155-160 lbs
18.6% bf
Training for 6 years
Current training: 5 day split, cardio 5-6x week @ 30mins (SS & hiit included + 1 plyo session)
Current nutrition: 6-7 meals, about 1450cals, 200g pro, 85g carbs (20g fiber), 32g fats

Have run clen before 2 weeks on/2 off (3 cycles) to cut up for summer 2009, but looking to try gh & var to compete in heavyweight bb division in 4-5 months.

For my first cycle of var & gh I was thinking of running both simultaneously for 12-16 weeks... 2 IUs gh in morning on empty stomach and 20mg anavar per day.

I have a heavy background in physiology, exercise science, and nutrition, but have little experience with AAS. Have done plenty of research and am ready to take the next step. I'm curious what others think of my proposed dose and cycle length for a female and your experiences with either of these components? Any other suggestions would be appreciated as well....

 

[superqt4u2nv]

If it is your first cycle of var I would say 10 mg would be more then enough as well as 1 iu of GH per day. Both split into dose's am and pm. Make sure to drop the GH 3-4 weeks prior to contest to drop the water weight you will gain from it.

If you could give us an exact break down of what you are eating and drinking in an average day at what times etc we could help more there as well.

 

[KiLLeR12]

If it is your first cycle of var I would say 10 mg would be more then enough as well as 1 iu of GH per day. Both split into dose's am and pm. Make sure to drop the GH 3-4 weeks prior to contest to drop the water weight you will gain from it.

If you could give us an exact break down of what you are eating and drinking in an average day at what times etc we could help more there as well.

I've got 6-7 meals planned out so I'm eating every 2 hours... I have been working with an IFBB Pro for about a year now who takes care of all my nutrition and tweaks it when necessary (and varies my training as well). He suggested the var @ no more than 20mg and gh @ no more than 2IUs per day while running both through 12-16 weeks of contest prep. I think I feel comfortable trying 10mgs and 1IU for now though since its my first cycle.

I'm curious on your thought to split the the doses of both between AM and PM??? I was thinking var in the AM and gh before bedtime, both on empty stomach... any particular reason for splitting? (Still doing my research before I start!)

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Var you split cause the half life is only 9 hours and first time taking it I would have it with a meal. My first cycle did bother me on an empty stomach but now it doesn't. GH is split to help keep the levels even as well take it early in the morning like 5-6 a.m. after your natural production at night a stoped then take it again late afternoon 2-4 this way your body will have a constant stream of GH.

 

[slat1]

I always tell people to try one thing at a time. If you try two new things you don't know which is doing what. What if you respond to one and not the other? How would you know? You could spend years flushing money down the toilet on something that does nothing for you.
Basic science dictates you try one substance and analyze the results. After that you can add in another and then document the difference.
I would not rush into anything. Its your body and you are stuck with it for the rest of your life.
I have always been a fan of using the least amount necessary to achieve your desired results.
So what I am saying I guess is I would start with one or the other and start at a small dose. That is just me though.
Best of luck with your competition!

 

[KiLLeR12]

Ok so I've been 9 days on gh, low-dose .5 IU so far. Gonna add in var starting tomorrow 5mg only for now. Visually, fat loss is continuing with my nutrition and training--great there. So tell me though, as a woman on my first cycle, is it possible that I really am noticing/feeling harder and stronger after just mere days on such a low dose?

Normally when I low-carb, I'm completely flat and deflated til a carb-up day, but currently on the gh, I'm very firm everywhere. My lifts on EVERY bodypart have increased this week--squats, deads, leg presses, military presses, benching... So I don't think its my mind playing tricks on me. I've hit new personal records on one lift or another every day this past week. Possible or placebo-effect, haha, either way, I'm pleased so far...

Only drawback is getting slight headaches almost daily--not painful, but more annoying than anything. Slight water retention too, ehh no biggie. More water needed to combat retention and headaches? Any thoughts?

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Ok so I've been 9 days on gh, low-dose .5 IU so far. Gonna add in var starting tomorrow 5mg only for now. Visually, fat loss is continuing with my nutrition and training--great there. So tell me though, as a woman on my first cycle, is it possible that I really am noticing/feeling harder and stronger after just mere days on such a low dose?

Normally when I low-carb, I'm completely flat and deflated til a carb-up day, but currently on the gh, I'm very firm everywhere. My lifts on EVERY bodypart have increased this week--squats, deads, leg presses, military presses, benching... So I don't think its my mind playing tricks on me. I've hit new personal records on one lift or another every day this past week. Possible or placebo-effect, haha, either way, I'm pleased so far...

Only drawback is getting slight headaches almost daily--not painful, but more annoying than anything. Slight water retention too, ehh no biggie. More water needed to combat retention and headaches? Any thoughts?

With 9 days it is probably more placebo effect then anything if you had been on the var for 9 days then I would say yes that is possible. How much water are you drinking?

 

[KiLLeR12]

With 9 days it is probably more placebo effect then anything if you had been on the var for 9 days then I would say yes that is possible. How much water are you drinking?

Water is at 1.5 gallons per day. Headaches are very slight, but I do notice a little something almost daily so I'm going to keep it at .5 IU gh and wait it out right there for now.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Water is at 1.5 gallons per day. Headaches are very slight, but I do notice a little something almost daily so I'm going to keep it at .5 IU gh and wait it out right there for now.

That is a good amount of water which means yes the GH is likely causing the headache if it is only slight maybe take a baby asprin.

 

[KiLLeR12]

That is a good amount of water which means yes the GH is likely causing the headache if it is only slight maybe take a baby asprin.

Feb 27-March 14: .5 IU gh
March 15-present: 1 IU gh, split AM and PM doses

March 9-present: 5mg Var

Feb 27th my weight was at 152 lbs. Now about 3 weeks later, I'm at 157 lbs and its messing with my head quite a bit! I'm sooooooo noticeably retaining water around my midsection and its driving me crazy. Water is at 1.5gal per day... no more headaches, AMAZING strength during lifting, midsection is completely watery, BAD.

Weekly average calories at 1400. KETOgenic diet, cardio 6x per week, 40mins. Carb ups Mon & Thurs.

Superqt: Could you tell me your experiences with this? How long til water retention dies down or what to do about it in the meanwhile? Its really messing with my head trying to cut down for competition while I'm shooting way up on the scale and completely watery looking.