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musclebosun
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JKurz1 said:
Go back and read my post again. I didn't advise him which is best. I gave arguments for and against and then told him that if he absolutely has to do them in one session, that i do weights then cardio.
alexthebear72
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Wow, Thanks guys...seriously......I don't know how to do that karma thing yet,but I would.......I never had this many people actually caring about my training.Thank You.
This board rules.I think we should all be like this.After all we are all bodybuilders...right? Some more advanced some less.....or some just beginners. Awesome suggestions guys thanks.
This board rules.I think we should all be like this.After all we are all bodybuilders...right? Some more advanced some less.....or some just beginners. Awesome suggestions guys thanks.
I think we started out at about the same place.
I am 15 yrs older, 1" taller and was 260lb. when I started. I was measured at 30.5% BF. I am now 275lb. and am 26% BF, I don't really give a ratsazz about the weight gain at this point because my pant size is smaller and my shirts now are tight at the chest and loose at the waist instead of the other way around. Newbie gains to be sure and I know that the laws of diminishing returns are starting to kick in. As far as cardio goes I used to do 30 minutes prior to my workout to get warmed up, but have now taken the approach that if my weight training is intense enough I am getting enough 'cardio' in the hour or so I spend in the gym lifting weights for now. Everyone is different and has different goals and even if we have the same goals we might take different approaches to getting to the same place, ie. bulking then cutting, or getting lean first then adding muscle. In another month I plan on changing my diet to something which is a little stricter which will probably limit muscle growth but promote fat loss.
I am 15 yrs older, 1" taller and was 260lb. when I started. I was measured at 30.5% BF. I am now 275lb. and am 26% BF, I don't really give a ratsazz about the weight gain at this point because my pant size is smaller and my shirts now are tight at the chest and loose at the waist instead of the other way around. Newbie gains to be sure and I know that the laws of diminishing returns are starting to kick in. As far as cardio goes I used to do 30 minutes prior to my workout to get warmed up, but have now taken the approach that if my weight training is intense enough I am getting enough 'cardio' in the hour or so I spend in the gym lifting weights for now. Everyone is different and has different goals and even if we have the same goals we might take different approaches to getting to the same place, ie. bulking then cutting, or getting lean first then adding muscle. In another month I plan on changing my diet to something which is a little stricter which will probably limit muscle growth but promote fat loss.
The Red Dragon
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Support is what this board is for
Just moving your ass and eating properly will get ya results pretty quickly.
I would recommend weights before cardio, that way you can tap into more glycogen (not that its significant because your body has tons of this stuff to last you pretty long). My main argument for weights first, is that you'll have more energy to go more intense...hence more myofibril damage, higher testosterone/IGF-1 (insulin growth factor 1). Plus...most of the glycogen you used from weight training will be reconverted to sugar by gluconeogenesis (hence why I don't see a huge difference on the biochemical level...oxidative phosphorylation (aerobic training) requires pyruvate conversion anyway.
Work hard, your results will come for sure, the initial gains are always the greatest...it will keep you motivated. Plus, think of all the female attention you'll be getting and how people will prejudge you favorably...perhaps even envy you
. Good luck man. You've hit the initiation stage, that's good, you just have to maintain it...which will be easy due to the gains 
.
No chocolate in the house = no consumption
Just moving your ass and eating properly will get ya results pretty quickly.
I would recommend weights before cardio, that way you can tap into more glycogen (not that its significant because your body has tons of this stuff to last you pretty long). My main argument for weights first, is that you'll have more energy to go more intense...hence more myofibril damage, higher testosterone/IGF-1 (insulin growth factor 1). Plus...most of the glycogen you used from weight training will be reconverted to sugar by gluconeogenesis (hence why I don't see a huge difference on the biochemical level...oxidative phosphorylation (aerobic training) requires pyruvate conversion anyway.
Work hard, your results will come for sure, the initial gains are always the greatest...it will keep you motivated. Plus, think of all the female attention you'll be getting and how people will prejudge you favorably...perhaps even envy you
. Good luck man. You've hit the initiation stage, that's good, you just have to maintain it...which will be easy due to the gains .No chocolate in the house = no consumption
alexthebear72
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Hey Guys.....
I am thankful for all your responses.I truly am. Anyways let the "bashing" begin. I have uploaded 4 fotos.Just click on my gallery....Go ahead and comment and criticize. I know that some of you have been at the point where I am now.I am definitely not letting my guard down from now on.
Decided to make this change not just for "diet" but as a change of a lifestyle.
I'll be happy to read all the responses.
Later
P.S. (Fat boy ahead)Don't be too grosed out.....hehe
I am thankful for all your responses.I truly am. Anyways let the "bashing" begin. I have uploaded 4 fotos.Just click on my gallery....Go ahead and comment and criticize. I know that some of you have been at the point where I am now.I am definitely not letting my guard down from now on.
Decided to make this change not just for "diet" but as a change of a lifestyle.
I'll be happy to read all the responses.
Later
P.S. (Fat boy ahead)Don't be too grosed out.....hehe
rbtrout
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I've only been doing this for about 3 years, but have learned alot. The guys & girls here will help. Read everything you can on BB and cardio, but don't believe the 12 week stories from 150# to Ronnie Coleman by eating sauerkraut and sausage.
Diet is huge! Weightlifting and cardio, as well. You'll probably find that, like another said, just moving your ass and eating correctly will help tremendously. AND, as others have said, no chocolate in the house = no eating of chocolate. It works wonders!
Remember to make better choices - if there's a box of Krispy Kremes at work and you get a hankering - go eat a protein bar. I keep protein bars in my desk drawer just for that purpose. Drinking meals can be easier than taking the time to eat. A protein shake mid-morning and mid-afternoon, with 3 good meals (clean food) will be a big help.
Your training sounds a bit intense for a beginner. You might want to back off a bit so you don't get burned out or overtrained.
Good luck!
Diet is huge! Weightlifting and cardio, as well. You'll probably find that, like another said, just moving your ass and eating correctly will help tremendously. AND, as others have said, no chocolate in the house = no eating of chocolate. It works wonders!
Remember to make better choices - if there's a box of Krispy Kremes at work and you get a hankering - go eat a protein bar. I keep protein bars in my desk drawer just for that purpose. Drinking meals can be easier than taking the time to eat. A protein shake mid-morning and mid-afternoon, with 3 good meals (clean food) will be a big help.
Your training sounds a bit intense for a beginner. You might want to back off a bit so you don't get burned out or overtrained.
Good luck!
alexthebear72
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Thanks rbtrout...it just seems like I will never get there considering my current physique.....Anyways, I made the choice and I am sticking with it
alexthebear72
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Oh I forgot to ask...how do you do that karma thing?
I don't get it...you can add to someone's karma and vice versa?
I don't get it...you can add to someone's karma and vice versa?
AirWolf
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alexthebear72 said:
I'd say right now the biggest thing has got to be your diet. Being active in the gym is going to help big time, but you'll hear tons of different methods of how to organize it, that won't help you too much until you've been lifting for a while. Just get your diet straight and stay active lifting or cardio 6 days a week. Start writing down what you eat or write down what you want to eat and stick to it.
alexthebear72 said:
As for the karma - just click on the little ying-yang karma symbol at the bottom of a persons 'user box' on the left. It'll let you give positive or negative karma for the post and leave a comment for the user.
