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Think you know your sh*t? Then please help, because I obviously don't know what I am doing and need your constructive criticism!!!

wordomr

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Calling all vets, experts, and experienced people. I'm frustrated and need input!

Please guys give your input (meaning just don't browse and move on, I would really like your help!) 50 views and only 2 comments isnt going to help me.

Assumptions
1) Stats: 27 6’3” 245, 22.5% BF
2) not on juice and haven’t started juice, yet.
3) I know this has parts where it would be more appropriate in “workout” and “diet” sections, but I didn’t want to split it all up, and more people visit this section that those others combined
4) I appreciate all constructive criticism, as I am trying to learn and change things, so please don’t have or be an ass, as I admit I don’t know everything

Sup guys,

I need your help and advice, as I am currently very frustrated and need to throw out what I “think” I know and need to obviously change things up and learn new information, because I just had my BF % measured and it went up from 18% to 22.5%, when I thought it would have gone down a little and have been trying to get it down to the 15% -17% mark in order to do my first cycle. I have wanted to do my first cycle for a while now and have been researching stuff off this site. As far as supplements, I am currently using Lipostack (and that’s good stuff!)

I have been working out consistently this past year and have before that I have lifted 3-4 off and on during grad school. Currently this is my routine suggested by a fellow member on here (before this I used a couple different training methods like upper and lower splits, 5-day body part splits, ect.). I do cardio 20-40 minutes after any weight session.

Monday:
Bench , Row, Dip, Chin

Tuesday:
Squat, Deadlift, Power Shrug

Thursday:
Bench, Row, Push Press, BB Curl

Friday:
Squat , Good Morning, Calf Raises

As far as diet, there is some variance, but this was what I was currently doing before (as it obviously needs to change)

Breakfast: Bowl of cereal (Kashi crunch, which has protein and fiber, the best ratio I’ve seen as far as that is concerned), whole wheat toast with natural peanut butter or the good cholesterol butter stuff

Mid-morning: either a protein shake or protein bar

Lunch: 6 in subway sandwhich on whole wheat bread

Afternoon snack: protein bar or shake

Dinner: Protein (chicken or tuna) and veggies, and some good carbs

After-workout (if appropriate) workout shake with 2 scoops of protein
Yeah, I have a cheat meal a few times a week, whether it be fast food or a dessert, but I try to keep that to a minimum. I try to drink as much water as I can to flush things out.


What gives, what needs to change from this information provided. I am completely frustrated like I said, seems like I’ve just wasted this whole past year of dedication and training. Should I be concentrating more time on cardio and less on weights? I’d really appreciate your constructive help!!!
If you need more information, just ask.
 
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i would eat more food. like six meals and less carbs. eat 1.5-2 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight. do cardio 45 min 4-5 times a week. take less time between your sets and keep your heart rate up. like 60 sec in between sets. you need to drop your bf down, it is way too high. drink more water and eat more ofton, so your metabolism rises. do abs and higher volume in your sets. you are training like a powerlifter and not so much like a bodybuilder. another thing you can try is
mon chest
tue back
wed legs
thur delts
fri arms
do 3-4 exercises and 3-4 sets per bodypart. do 10-15 reps per set to get your bf down. and train calves and abs twice a week and don't cheat with cereal, desserts and fast food. good luck bro.
 
i just looked and your workout thing looked like shit

you need to get a real workout program

also what gear were you considering taking?
 
holy ghost said:
i just looked and your workout thing looked like shit

you need to get a real workout program

also what gear were you considering taking?


What would be a "real workout program" then, can you give details and such?
Also, I was only considering a basic test-e 10-12 week cycle, 250-500 mg, but obviously i need to get other things like diet and workout routine in check before I ever mess with that stuff, thats a given and that is why I am asking for help!
 
Your workout schedule needs some attention. Try to concentrate on a bodypart or two each workout. You could be eating a little more regularly too which would help fire up your metabolism. I don't see any cardio either. To get your BF down your going to need to add in some cardio. Even if only twice a week at about 30-45 mins. I like to do mine after my workout as seems for me to best time or first thing in the morning.
 
Sorrry I just saw your cardio!

So that amount should be enough if your pushing yourself. Problem is clearly in your diet then for lowering your BF.
 
Re: Calling all vets, experts, and experienced people. I'm frustrated and need input!

wordomr said:
Please guys give your input (meaning just don't browse and move on, I would really like your help!) 50 views and only 2 comments isnt going to help me.

Assumptions
1) Stats: 27 6’3” 245, 22.5% BF
2) not on juice and haven’t started juice, yet.
3) I know this has parts where it would be more appropriate in “workout” and “diet” sections, but I didn’t want to split it all up, and more people visit this section that those others combined
4) I appreciate all constructive criticism, as I am trying to learn and change things, so please don’t have or be an ass, as I admit I don’t know everything

Sup guys,

I need your help and advice, as I am currently very frustrated and need to throw out what I “think” I know and need to obviously change things up and learn new information, because I just had my BF % measured and it went up from 18% to 22.5%, when I thought it would have gone down a little and have been trying to get it down to the 15% -17% mark in order to do my first cycle. I have wanted to do my first cycle for a while now and have been researching stuff off this site. As far as supplements, I am currently using Lipostack (and that’s good stuff!)

I have been working out consistently this past year and have before that I have lifted 3-4 off and on during grad school. Currently this is my routine suggested by a fellow member on here (before this I used a couple different training methods like upper and lower splits, 5-day body part splits, ect.). I do cardio 20-40 minutes after any weight session.

Monday:
Bench , Row, Dip, Chin

Tuesday:
Squat, Deadlift, Power Shrug

Thursday:
Bench, Row, Push Press, BB Curl

Friday:
Squat , Good Morning, Calf Raises

As far as diet, there is some variance, but this was what I was currently doing before (as it obviously needs to change)

Breakfast: Bowl of cereal (Kashi crunch, which has protein and fiber, the best ratio I’ve seen as far as that is concerned), whole wheat toast with natural peanut butter or the good cholesterol butter stuff

Mid-morning: either a protein shake or protein bar

Lunch: 6 in subway sandwhich on whole wheat bread

Afternoon snack: protein bar or shake

Dinner: Protein (chicken or tuna) and veggies, and some good carbs

After-workout (if appropriate) workout shake with 2 scoops of protein
Yeah, I have a cheat meal a few times a week, whether it be fast food or a dessert, but I try to keep that to a minimum. I try to drink as much water as I can to flush things out.


What gives, what needs to change from this information provided. I am completely frustrated like I said, seems like I’ve just wasted this whole past year of dedication and training. Should I be concentrating more time on cardio and less on weights? I’d really appreciate your constructive help!!!
If you need more information, just ask.


What you're asking is unrealistic without close observation. At any rate, it can't be answered in a few sentences. Reading this will help, a lot: http://www.elitefitness.com/reports/truth/
 
The exercise program he listed totally doesn't have enough volume to be a PLing program. If we do bis or calves, we don't even count it as an exercise.



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