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Spatt....Do you work? have a job? Because..

MrStamina

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I was reading your cutting diet after i gave it to my g/f and she flipped out on me.
She has a job.. 8 to 4 Pm ..that diet cant work, unless you re eating and going back to bed.

Is there a meal plan out there for people that have a full time job?

And Spatt if you are working how did you manage to workout twice a day, on a diet with only 5 to 6 hours sleep?

Heres the diet
http://home.swbell.net/arkaynen/cutting.htm
 
The job excuse isn't going to fly around here. Most of us work full time, go to school and/or have kids. Some all three. You make time, you prepare your meals on Sunday, if it's important to you anything is possible. If this was easy the whole world would be filled with tight asses and pumped up arms.
 
Whoa! Hold on there. I always believed that too, PSB, until I began working at an internal medicine clinic. I work 7-5, mon-fri, with maybe 1/2 hour for lunch. The rest of the time I am constantly moving and do not have time to consume real food, even if it is already prepared. What I am having to do is slam down protein shakes and I barely have time for that. Now the only time I can eat real food 4-6 times a day is on Sat and Sun. If I could honestly keep up with Spatts cutting diet on a set schedule I would do it.

MrStamina, have your g/f try the mrp's or protein shakes, preferably a brand that would mix well by stirring or shaking. I use Isopure.

As for working out twice a day, what is wrong with getting up at say 5 a.m., cardio or weight training, breakfast and then work? I do it and I am at work at 7 a.m. Then you have to make a priority to work out after work, whether it be at the gym or at home. Is your g/f training for a comp? If so, then she can find ways to get her diet down pat and the training into her day. Just takes a lil bit of imagination AND determination.:D

Hope this helps!
 
I'm sure she'll be on soon, but I'll go ahead and chime in here since I train with her.

The diets were put together when she trained first thing in the morning, so she'd get up at 4, eat, go back to bed, then go train, and start the day. At that time, she was training me in the evenings, so she'd go back to the gym, and often do cardio in the evening.

As far as the work thing, PSB is right. I work full time, and follow a diet that spatts made for me, except with considerably more calories.

She's a full time mom, which I'd certainly call a job, and she usually manages to get more than 5-6 hours sleep. It just doesn't read that way from looking at the diet.
 
takniteasy said:
Whoa! Hold on there. I always believed that too, PSB, until I began working at an internal medicine clinic.

I'm not saying a compromise can't be made and she has to follow anything to a T. But you can't just flip out over a diet, because it's not easy and convenient. This was a girl that ate twice a day before Spatt's posted her diet.

A lot of people are LAZY and won't prepare meals ahead of time. Some people physically don't have time to eat at work, I realize this. But there are ways around everything, IF you want to do it.

Let's say you have a job where you can only eat at lunch. So you get up at 7am, have to be there by 8:30...

I would eat the second I woke up, shovel half a meal in my face in the car on the way, eat at lunch, eat in the car at the way home, eat at home, eat before bed. Now this is assuming there is a big commute. But that is 6 meals, even if two are considerably smaller because they are closer than 3 hours.

Now if she has time to slam a protein shake a few hours after lunch that's great too.
 
I work full time + as a software consultant, and I eat 6-7 times/day. I carry a cooler with me everywhere, get up at 5:00 am to train, and the last few weeks pre-comp I would throw in a second cardio session at night. I just made sure I was in bed around 9:00 pm everynight - even if it meant hanging out a little less on this discussion board. :-)

I prepare my meals in advance - Sunday is grill day - throw a bunch of chicken/london broil on the grill; freeze part and put the rest in the fridge. It's pretty do-able once you get a system down.
 
MrStamina said:
I was reading your cutting diet after i gave it to my g/f and she flipped out on me.
I agree with everyone else that you make time if it is important to you. BUT.... for someone who is TOTALLY NEW to this style of eating (in other words, 99% of all Americans who eat crap or close to crap), I would recommend STARTING SLOWLY!!! Most people would lose their minds going from how they are used to eating, to eating like that diet. Without the PRESSURE & IMPENDING FEAR of being on a stage & competing - which most people don't have - it's hard to stay motivated to stick to something so strict. It's hard enough even for those who DO have the competition pressure!!!!

I am NOT SAYING to not eat clean, instead what I advocate is a GRADUAL CHANGE to this style of eating. We're in it for the long haul & this type of eating is NOT EASY! It's a big change that takes true dedication & effort, why not EASE INTO IT?! Wouldn't you all agree that gradual smaller changes are easier to handle than a drastic sudden turn around of all habits? (for most people, I personally am not one of them) The method that's easier to stick to is the method that is more likely to endure for the long haul - and that should be the goal.
 
I second Gladiola's post. I made changes gradually, and the good news is I was able to see results with EACH change! My changes were slow and steady, but the results have been long lasting. I think it was easier on me mentally making changes slowly - that way I didn't feel like I was forcing myself on a "diet".

Some people might get put off looking at someone else's meal plan and think they can't do that. Even so, you can always learn something about types of foods, and food combinations and adapt them to your own tastes, schedule, etc. I don't follow anyone's particular diet, but take bits and pieces of everything I learn and adapt to my own diet.

Now I can't imagine NOT eating 5 or 6 times a day, or ever eating a carb without some protein. I always have energy and I'm never hungry. I'm eating more calories on this "diet" than I've ever eaten. I even work out LESS than I used to, but I'm leaner and more muscular than I've ever been.

I have a full-time office job and I work out 4 times a week. This includes 45 min weights, 30 min cardio, and 15 min stretching. This totals just 6 hours a week, which is less than the new govt suggestion of 1 hour a day. I used to think I could work out extra hard to compensate for my somewhat slack diet, but that only took me so far. You'll get more mileage out of a good diet change than you will out of harder/longer workouts.
 
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