Shotgun Approach to training...

[Arioch]

So what are the thoughts about the shotgun approach...haha

Well, I think that a limited amount of both consistancy and variation are necessary, but the amount varies from individual to individual. You are aware of how I train, but my son can grind away for 16 weeks at the same exercises over and over and still make gains and set records at competitions.

Good examples of people who do well with little variation: Coan, Bridges, Gaugler, Dave Ricks.

Good examples of people who do well with a great deal of variation: WSB (surprise). Some of them change their assistance work weekly, or bi-weekly. Core lifts are always done, but the weight is always changing, as well as the type of added resistance.

It basically depends on how quickly the athlete attenuates to the program. And there is no way to tell until the lifter's progress starts to halt if something needs to be changed or not.

And no, there is no physiological reason why the exercises need to be changed, all the reasons are CNS and other NS systems related.

 

[ZZuluZ]

" Another example, once again from runner's world (I refuse to capitalize it): Squats are great for strengthening the legs in the off-season. To make them more effective, you can even hold weights in your hands."

LMAO....that's hilarious man

Marathon runners don't have huge legs, not only because they're all slow twitch fiber but also from an adaptional POV.

I mean, you want the body to run huge distances. The only way to accomplish this is by reducing bodyweight. As much as gaining muscle from weightlifting is an adaptational response, so is running a marathon.

"Comparing sprinters and marathon runners as samples of what TUT can produce is a highly flawed argument."

I hope this was not directed at me. I do not consider TUT as a major factor in gaining mass or strength.

-Zulu

 

[Arioch]

I hope this was not directed at me. I do not consider TUT as a major factor in gaining mass or strength.

Just in general. The marathoner example had already been pointed out.

Notice how I refrained from pointing out that this is a typical Mentzer argument?

 

[ZZuluZ]

Is it?

I thought Mike Mentzer had nothing else to say but:

Use a slow tempo. Go to failure. Sit on your ass the rest of the week and do nothing.

-Zulu

 

[Arioch]

Oh no. He was the master of the logical fallacy.

As a general rule, I try not to bash people that much, but in some cases it is very difficult.

 

[MarshallPenniford]

How can you think TUT isn't the biggest factor in gaining mass? It's got 2 element to it: time and TENSION. Without load induced tension on the muscle, you have nothing. Unless you're going to zap yourself with Abtronics all day

 

[ZZuluZ]

'How can you think TUT isn't the biggest factor in gaining mass? "

You recommend doing sets of 50? Or do you recommend doing sets of 6-12?

-Zulu

 

[MarshallPenniford]

For what purpose? Gaining mass?

6-12 of course. Greater tension. Tension is more important than time.

 

[ZZuluZ]

It's not one thing or the other. It is a combination of things. A fine balance between the myriad of factors involved in lifting.

-Zulu

 

[Vortexx]

Mimic the fat people, Weigthed vests is the answer!

If you can't afford them just load up your backpack with bricks, go to your local mall and walk the electric stairs all day. Just tell the people that you constantly bump into that you are sponsored by SSalexSS Overtraining (tm) , this way the gospel will spread fast...