r-ALA experiment

[wilson6]

"Maybe after a week of this, I'll start increasing my dose of ALA, then reintroduce glycerol, and THEN I'll try increasing sodium. One thing at a time"

Good approach. No glycerol, keep r-ALA and sodium constant (were they are now) all for a week, see what happens. Then increase the r-ALA back to where it was when the polyuria began. If nothing then add in the glycerol, if it begins again then cut the r-ALA, if it persists then its the glycerol. If not, then an interactive effect. Change the sodium last.

W6

 

[macrophage69alpha]

any change?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

?

 

[rez]

just took 100mg r-ala post workout, with the following meal:

1/2 cup cereal - puffed rice, bran, seeds etc
scoop protein powder

plus

tinned salmon (helps w the sodium issue?) w 1/4 small pumpkin and heaps of vegies - tomato, carrot, brocc, capcicum etc

this seem ok?

how long does the r-ala stay in your system for? ie how long can i have the carbs for after taking the r-ala?
thanks

 

[Ulter]

If I told we know I would be lying. It appears to last 2-3 hours.
You are using it correctly like that.

 

[MiniColemans]

Hmmm...you mean Glut-4 downregulation due to ALA use?

I thought that wasn't bio-cemically possible?

You know like on/off/ HPTA is more like shades of gray.

(Hell, I could be wrong)

If you're right........oh shit. Then its time to cycle ALA too..

Fonz

Glut-4 receptors increase with exercise also, so I dont think so.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

at ultra high concentration reduction of glut-4 would be possible (ones not achievable with human oral use).. probably 30g + of racemic

 

[Fonz]

at ultra high concentration reduction of glut-4 would be possible (ones not achievable with human oral use).. probably 30g + of racemic

If I recall correctly, 30g of racemic ALA is a toxic dose
for a 165-180lb individual.

Fonz

 

[Storm1]

No longer lurking

So if I am hearing you all correctly, we are trying to determine a good dosage for r-ala. Ultimately we want to minimize sides(dry mouth, polyuria, etc) and encourage weight loss as well as enhance our energy by making glucose more bioavailable?
The common dosage up untill now has been 100mg r-ala / 30g CHO. We now believe that this is excessive. MS, you have halved your dose, and eliminated glycerol? Additionally, your energy in the gym is good and you look leaner but have not lost any 'scale weight?' I'm just trying to decipher where we are now. I am about to give r-ala a try specifically to enhance the bioavailability of CHO (muscle fuel to burn). I'm not concerned with weight loss per se but am having success with a lower carb eating plan. My training is about to increase and I hope to make the most of the carbs I ingest. The plan is to take r-ala right after my training session and eat (carbs+protein) within a few minutes of that. My goal is to enhance my recovery and have a successful season. Questions, comments welcome.
Storm

 

[Iron Queen]

confused...

I'm new at this whole r-ala thing. I heard about it a while ago on the AF board but didnt read too much into it because I just thought it was another regular "supp" that wasnt a big deal. Now that I'm reading into it, I'm extremely curious....

In a contest prep... say if I'm doing 5 meals per day.... with the first 4 meals of the day having 33 carbs each (the last carb meal is post training) how would I take this? Just 1, 100mg cap, maybe 2-3 times per day tops?

Also MS, I see that you noticed the water loss was more so sub-q, and you still had full looking muscles. How could this be used maybe the week or so before a show, going right up into a show, maybe as a diuretic?

Any info on this? I'm very curious and am going to start using this supp. this week...... my show isnt until June so I've got some time to play around a bit with this.

IQ