HELP-BB or powerlifting???

[rgosit]

i previously posted this in the powerlifting discussuion but i got no replies.. so



im 17 and i play hs football. Ive been lifting since i was in 5th grade. i love lifting, ive always been more of a powerlifter because ive played sports mainly football..and i only cared about how strong and explosive i was. after the season if id ont play in college i dont kno what path to take. either way i kno im always gonna lift and eat rite. but should i stay with strength and power lifting routines like ive always done( bench squat deadlift powercleans, power press) or change over to isolating muscles.
i want to stay strong and fast incase i play a sport recreationally.
i was also thinking about getting into boxing or some kind of martial art for, fun or maybe to compete in the future..or to kno how to kick someones a** if i have to.
i want to get big and be strong and fast. so i would continue running (sprints jumping ETC) i like plometric training also
I kinda want to look good also, i dont want to look like a body builder though i dont ever want to be lower then like 10% bodyfat.


rite now im 5-7
about 180, i was at my heaviest about 196 before the seaon but lost weight with all the running. im at about 10-12 percentbdfat
i dont think i could ever get really skinny kno matter what i did anyway, i have a short torso and my stomach sticks out, its hard its not fat, but i dont ever think i could get the prototype beach boy six pack.

my best previous lift are
squat 485 X 5
my bench sucks- 205-3 i think is the most ive done
rack clean 205-210-5

i want to get BIG, could i gain alot of weight doing a workout like the power matrix??

i want to end up being like 200-210 with about the same bd fat

last football season i ended weighing like 155.

the workouts i have are:
power matrix
nebraska football program
maimi's football program-even though i dont kno the percentages
i could do hit programs
north carolinas football program
the olympic sprinters program
and a football program from DR.squat

and a question about the power matrix
can u do deadlifts one day and squats the next??or vice versa

so could u do like bench and squat monday and thursday
and deradlift on tues and fri.

i kno since i posted this in the powerlifting forum most of u will say powerlift.

but i kinda do want to be on a bulking cutting type split cause i dont want to b fat. but i was thinking about lifting for a year bbing then a year powerlifting\football type training and back and forth, but im not sure. would this b a good way to see what i like better????
ne help would b appreciated

does ne one kno about martial arts or boxing and training??

will bbing make more slow twitch muscle fibers and make me unathletic??

my diet is in check and i know how to lift, i just need to be pionted in the rite direction.

sorry i had to drop a novel.

 

[Scotsman]

You can do a mix of both. Use the heavy basic motions to keep strength up but add in some of the isolation exercises. You don't have to be completely one deminsional in your training for it to be effective. Also don't try and blindly follow someone elses program. Build up a program that you like, you can stick to, and works for you.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[rgosit]

so i could b following the power matrix

doing the the 8-5-3-1-1-1 rep sceme for my bench squat and dead

and be doing 10-8-6 or 8-8-8 for other exercises

could this be a mass building power matrix\ bb werkout

flat bench 8-5-3-1-1-1
dips 3x failure
incline db bench 10-8-6
DB shoulder press 10-8-6
side db raises 10-10-10
fron raises 10-10-10

i dont understand the power matrix.. how can u bench, squat and deadlift heavy twice a week, and not do squat and dead lift on the same day or consecuitve days without hitting major muslce groups several times

 

[Little Girl]

You can do both. As for me, I asked the question and I found the solution: powerlifting in fall and bb in spring! I don't need to be fat to be a good powerlifter, just stay lean all year long!

LG

 

[bigmag]

bro.....I think you should go with powerlifting for a little while, then maybe decide if you still want to do bodybuilding. I mean, think about it. Ronnie Coleman and alot of the other pro's started out as powerlifters then just switched. That's the way I'd go. It's really up to what you enjoy most......if you really enjoy both then by all means....do both. Either way, good luck!!!

 

[SAGAT]

hmmm.that was ALOT of text so i didnt read it all carefully, but my guess is that you like powerlifting better, no? so in your case, id stick with that

 

[MonStar1023]

rgosit-
Bodybuilding involves a lot of power movements I think.. I mean I always do heavy deads, hang cleans, power cleans, push presses, along with the isolation movements... I would say a mix of both bro.

 

[Freak Show]

i want to stay strong and fast incase i play a sport recreationally.
i was also thinking about getting into boxing or some kind of martial art for, fun or maybe to compete in the future..or to kno how to kick someones a** if i have to.
i want to get big and be strong and fast. so i would continue running (sprints jumping ETC) i like plometric training also

If these are the things you want, you already know your answer. As for specifics on power matrix, I can't help. Never heard of it.

 

[BodybuildingUniverse]

I think a good mix of both is healthy and keeps it fun. 485 x 5 in the squat though and a 205 bench? That's hard to swallow. I guarantee your squats need some work on depth.

 

[rgosit]

how can i mix both???

allot of the time mixing them i see a problem running into using the same msucle group a few times a week.
both the nebraska and maimi football lifting program use explosive lift on monday and thursday and base on tuesday and friday either way ur using most muscle groups everyday.

sample of maimi
monday
one leg squat 8
warmup
power snatch 5 5 3 3 3
hang clean 5 5 5
power jerk 5 5 5 5 (what is this??)
clean pull 5 5 5
lunge 5 5 5
weighted hypers 8 8 8
weighted situps 80
neck 10

tuesday
one leg squat 8
back squat 8 6 4 4
front squat 5 5 5 5
bench (sometimes up to 15 sets) 6 5 4 4
standing DB press 10 10
glute\hams 8 8 8
lat circuit 10-10-10
roman chair twists 70

the nebraska program is very similar..


my squats are a lil above parrelell decent reps though..i recently dropped wieght to get parelell

and with the power matrix i cant see how u can do bench squat and dead 2 X;s a week heavy without squat and dead on the same day and following days.

can i do a program like above to put on mass?? and when cutting would it make sense to do cardio wile doing a powerlifting bb mix routine?

but i think im gonna bounce around
i think im gonna use the power matrix for core lifts and make the other lifts like a bb prog to bulk
then ill do something like the miami or the nebraska werkout with allot of running and cardio to cut.

thanks