The Biblical Believers....

[cindylou]

Believe what you will.....the one thing I am sure of is that there is ALWAYS and I mean Always doubt. You can stand on the rooftops and expound (until we shoot you down from there).....but you Still have some doubt about said babble....even if you dont recognize it........of this I am absolutely certain!!!!!!....there's a hole in this theory somewhere.

haha!

lol


love it.

 

[needtogetaas]

Sometimes I think people who fight to try to convince others of what they believe to an excessive extent.....are just trying to convince themselves.

That goes both ways.

dam good point....

 

[javaguru]

dont you realize that any thread about religion is bashing christianity and trying to prove that whatever someone else believes is the 'truth'.. find me a thread started by a christian thats sole purpose is to disprove atheism please.. we dont need to prove shit what we know is what we know and we are content by our 'blind faith'

To prove Atheism wrong all you have to do is provide scientific evidence of a supernatural power creator. I like many scientists see God in nature and not as some supernatural meglomaniac. According to James Cameron, he's discovered the rotting corpse of Jesus; If it's true then it's game set and match for Christianity and you'll have to switch religions.

There are roughly six billion people on the planet. Christianity, Islam and Judaism combined account for about two billion and by 2010 Islam is expected to be the single largest religious group.

Atheism around the world.
http://www.pitzer.edu/academics/faculty/zuckerman/atheism.html

Even in open, democratic societies without pervasive governmental coercion, individuals often feel that in order to make themselves appear as decent, upstanding citizens, it is necessary to say that are religious( i ) -- or deny being an atheist -- simply because such a response is deemed socially desirable or culturally appropriate. For example, the designation “atheist” is highly stigmatized in many societies; even when people directly claim to not believe in God, they still eschew the specific self-designation of “atheist.” Greeley (2003) found that 29% of Latvians, 41% of Norwegians, 48% of the French, and 54% of Czechs claimed to not believe in God, but only 9%, 10%, 19%, and 20% of those respondents self-identified as “atheist,” respectively.

Country % Atheist/ Agnostic/Nonbeliever in God (minimum - maximum)
1 Sweden 46-85%
2 Vietnam 81%
3 Denmark 43-80%
4 Norway 31-72%
5 Japan 64-65%
6 Czech Republic 54-61%
7 Finland 28-60%
8 France 43-54%
9 South Korea 30%-52%
10 Estonia 49%
11 Germany 41-49%
12 Russia 24-48%
13 Hungary 32-46%
14 Netherlands 39-44%
15 Britain 31-44%
16 Belgium 42-43%
17 Bulgaria 34-40%
18 Slovenia 35-38%
19 Israel 15-37%
20 Canada 19-30%
21 Latvia 20-29%
22 Slovakia 10-28%
23 Switzerland 17-27%
24 Austria 18-26%
25 Australia 24-25%
26 Taiwan 24%
27 Spain 15-24%
28 Iceland 16-23%
29 New Zealand 20-22%
30 Ukraine 20%
31 Belarus 17%
32 Greece 16%
33 North Korea 15% ( ? )
34 Italy 6-15%
35 Armenia 14%
37 Lithuania 13%
38 Singapore 13%
39 Uruguay 12%
40 Kazakhstan 11-12%
41 Estonia 11%
42 Mongolia 9%
43 Portugal 4-9%
44 United States 3-9%
45 Albania 8%
46 Argentina 4-8%
47 Kyrgyzstan 7%
48 Dominican Rep. 7%
49 Cuba 7% ( ? )
50 Croatia 7%

(?): certainty/validity on these figures is relatively low

 

[Phaded]

To prove Atheism wrong all you have to do is provide scientific evidence of a supernatural power creator. I like many scientists see God in nature and not as some supernatural meglomaniac. According to James Cameron, he's discovered the rotting corpse of Jesus; If it's true then it's game set and match for Christianity and you'll have to switch religions.

There are roughly six billion people on the planet. Christianity, Islam and Judaism combined account for about two billion and by 2010 Islam is expected to be the single largest religious group.

Atheism around the world.
http://www.pitzer.edu/academics/faculty/zuckerman/atheism.html

Even in open, democratic societies without pervasive governmental coercion, individuals often feel that in order to make themselves appear as decent, upstanding citizens, it is necessary to say that are religious( i ) -- or deny being an atheist -- simply because such a response is deemed socially desirable or culturally appropriate. For example, the designation “atheist” is highly stigmatized in many societies; even when people directly claim to not believe in God, they still eschew the specific self-designation of “atheist.” Greeley (2003) found that 29% of Latvians, 41% of Norwegians, 48% of the French, and 54% of Czechs claimed to not believe in God, but only 9%, 10%, 19%, and 20% of those respondents self-identified as “atheist,” respectively.

Country % Atheist/ Agnostic/Nonbeliever in God (minimum - maximum)
1 Sweden 46-85%
2 Vietnam 81%
3 Denmark 43-80%
4 Norway 31-72%
5 Japan 64-65%
6 Czech Republic 54-61%
7 Finland 28-60%
8 France 43-54%
9 South Korea 30%-52%
10 Estonia 49%
11 Germany 41-49%
12 Russia 24-48%
13 Hungary 32-46%
14 Netherlands 39-44%
15 Britain 31-44%
16 Belgium 42-43%
17 Bulgaria 34-40%
18 Slovenia 35-38%
19 Israel 15-37%
20 Canada 19-30%
21 Latvia 20-29%
22 Slovakia 10-28%
23 Switzerland 17-27%
24 Austria 18-26%
25 Australia 24-25%
26 Taiwan 24%
27 Spain 15-24%
28 Iceland 16-23%
29 New Zealand 20-22%
30 Ukraine 20%
31 Belarus 17%
32 Greece 16%
33 North Korea 15% ( ? )
34 Italy 6-15%
35 Armenia 14%
37 Lithuania 13%
38 Singapore 13%
39 Uruguay 12%
40 Kazakhstan 11-12%
41 Estonia 11%
42 Mongolia 9%
43 Portugal 4-9%
44 United States 3-9%
45 Albania 8%
46 Argentina 4-8%
47 Kyrgyzstan 7%
48 Dominican Rep. 7%
49 Cuba 7% ( ? )
50 Croatia 7%

(?): certainty/validity on these figures is relatively low

you know that prickly feeling on your neck? or when it gets really cold? thats jesus..

 

[cindylou]

Many people do not believe in God (but dont claim to be athiest) because they dont know or dont care enough to even set out to see if God exists or not.

An athiest is a religion in itself ; setting out to prove that God does not exist and trying to convince others of such.

That is why numbers are low. I dont think that anyone thinks you are not a decent human if you dont belive in god.

 

[bigmann245]

im with tom.... go scientology...

 

[javaguru]

this I dont understand.

The bible says that the Jew's are God's chosen people. We are to be kind and we are to lookout and not harm them.

The only commandment given to us in the new testiment is to love eachother. That is it. anything else is not christianity.

People do evil things in the name of God/ christianity and religion. None of that means that Christianity itself is evil.

Martin Luther , wrote....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies


On the Jews and their Lies (German: Von den Jüden und iren Lügen; in modern spelling Von den Juden und ihren Lügen) is a 65,000-word treatise written by the German monk and church reformer Martin Luther in 1543, three years before his death.

In the treatise, Luther writes that the Jews are a "base, whoring people, that is, no people of God, and their boast of lineage, circumcision, and law must be accounted as filth."[1] They are full of the "devil's feces ... which they wallow in like swine,"[2] and the synagogue is an "incorrigible whore and an evil slut ..."[3] He argues that their synagogues and schools should be set on fire, their prayer books destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes razed, and property and money confiscated. They should be shown no mercy or kindness,[4] afforded no legal protection,[5] and these "poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time.[6] He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "[w]e are at fault in not slaying them."[7]

The prevailing scholarly view[8] since the Second World War is that the treatise exercised a major and persistent influence on Germany's attitude toward its Jewish citizens in the centuries between the Reformation and the Holocaust . Four hundred years after it was written, the National Socialists displayed On the Jews and their Lies during Nuremberg rallies, and the city of Nuremberg presented a first edition to Julius Streicher, editor of the Nazi newspaper Der Stürmer, the newspaper describing it as the most radically antisemitic tract ever published.[9] Against the majority view, theologian Johannes Wallmann writes that the treatise had no continuity of influence in Germany, and was in fact largely ignored during the 18th and 19th centuries.[10] Hans Hillerbrand argues that to focus on Luther's role in the development of German antisemitism is to underestimate the "larger peculiarities of German history."[11]

Since the 1980s, some Lutheran church bodies have formally denounced Luther's writings on the Jews. In November 1998, on the 60th anniversary of Kristallnacht, the Lutheran Church of Bavaria issued a statement: "It is imperative for the Lutheran Church, which knows itself to be indebted to the work and tradition of Martin Luther, to take seriously also his anti-Jewish utterances, to acknowledge their theological function, and to reflect on their consequences. It has to distance itself from every [expression of] anti-Judaism in Lutheran theology."[12]

 

[javaguru]

im with tom.... go scientology...

Krishna kicks ass...just ask jackangel....

 

[Lestat]

so what created the big bang...and what created that and then that...lol its the same dame thing.lol some time or another you have to say well there had to be a start...some thing or some one had to just be there for reasons that cant be explained....it has to start some where.

lol. So if it can't be explained, why do people make up stories to account for some explanation?

I think we will continue to learn more, and eventually know most of the details of how a universe could be created or get it start.

And I'm positive that the answer will not come from a religious text.

 

[cindylou]

Martin Luther , wrote....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies


On the Jews and their Lies (German: Von den Jüden und iren Lügen; in modern spelling Von den Juden und ihren Lügen) is a 65,000-word treatise written by the German monk and church reformer Martin Luther in 1543, three years before his death.

In the treatise, Luther writes that the Jews are a "base, whoring people, that is, no people of God, and their boast of lineage, circumcision, and law must be accounted as filth."[1] They are full of the "devil's feces ... which they wallow in like swine,"[2] and the synagogue is an "incorrigible whore and an evil slut ..."[3] He argues that their synagogues and schools should be set on fire, their prayer books destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes razed, and property and money confiscated. They should be shown no mercy or kindness,[4] afforded no legal protection,[5] and these "poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time.[6] He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "[w]e are at fault in not slaying them."[7]

The prevailing scholarly view[8] since the Second World War is that the treatise exercised a major and persistent influence on Germany's attitude toward its Jewish citizens in the centuries between the Reformation and the Holocaust . Four hundred years after it was written, the National Socialists displayed On the Jews and their Lies during Nuremberg rallies, and the city of Nuremberg presented a first edition to Julius Streicher, editor of the Nazi newspaper Der Stürmer, the newspaper describing it as the most radically antisemitic tract ever published.[9] Against the majority view, theologian Johannes Wallmann writes that the treatise had no continuity of influence in Germany, and was in fact largely ignored during the 18th and 19th centuries.[10] Hans Hillerbrand argues that to focus on Luther's role in the development of German antisemitism is to underestimate the "larger peculiarities of German history."[11]

Since the 1980s, some Lutheran church bodies have formally denounced Luther's writings on the Jews. In November 1998, on the 60th anniversary of Kristallnacht, the Lutheran Church of Bavaria issued a statement: "It is imperative for the Lutheran Church, which knows itself to be indebted to the work and tradition of Martin Luther, to take seriously also his anti-Jewish utterances, to acknowledge their theological function, and to reflect on their consequences. It has to distance itself from every [expression of] anti-Judaism in Lutheran theology."[12]

Thats what I'm saying. Thats not what the bible says.

So ; thats what someone else said. Not God. Not the bible. Its not a part of being a Christian.