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Robert Jan
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I dont know which I believe- that sexual preference is genetic or evolved, but I think the latter is true and if homosexuality will ever be completely socially accepted there will probably be a large rise in it. logically in polls etc cuz people would say it more but maybe also in actual homosexuality.
the nature boy
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paradox said:
what does the bible have to do with the TV show? please stay on topic.
Also, if parents showed some kind of interest in what their kids watched they could prevent their kids from watching that show.
john937
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The Romans that crusified Jesus were Pagan at the time, worshiping Zeus and other gods we today call mythology.
The Romans washed their hands of the crusifiction, it was totally on the heads of the Jews who ordered it and could have stopped it.
The followers of Jesus formed Christianity after the crusifixion as they spread to Europe. It took several hundred years before you could say the Romans were Christian.
About the whole stoning of gays thing:
This is basically a longstanding mistranslation of the bible that occured in the 1600's.
The bible translaters had very sketchy understanding of Greek and Aramaic.
Their world view was that all homosexuals consisted of pederasty, older men with young boys.
So of course their translations came out biased against it.
Modern day scholars have learned so much about translating Greek since the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
We now know the stories are talking about temple priest/prostitutes of the worshipers of the idol Baal.
It was predicated on the beliefs that men were more valuable then women, and if you gave money to the priests then you obligated the God to give you what you wanted.
People would give the priest money and have sex with him which would "obligate" God to bless them with fertility and children.
The Jewish laws are basically saying "We don't believe that!"
There is a new translation of the Bible just coming into print.
The Oxford University 4th edition has corrected the way many of the "clobber" passages are translated,
and in the study footnotes has made it clear
that there is NO BIBLICAL COMDEMNATION OF HOMOSEXUALITY as we think of it today.
The Romans washed their hands of the crusifiction, it was totally on the heads of the Jews who ordered it and could have stopped it.
The followers of Jesus formed Christianity after the crusifixion as they spread to Europe. It took several hundred years before you could say the Romans were Christian.
About the whole stoning of gays thing:
This is basically a longstanding mistranslation of the bible that occured in the 1600's.
The bible translaters had very sketchy understanding of Greek and Aramaic.
Their world view was that all homosexuals consisted of pederasty, older men with young boys.
So of course their translations came out biased against it.
Modern day scholars have learned so much about translating Greek since the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
We now know the stories are talking about temple priest/prostitutes of the worshipers of the idol Baal.
It was predicated on the beliefs that men were more valuable then women, and if you gave money to the priests then you obligated the God to give you what you wanted.
People would give the priest money and have sex with him which would "obligate" God to bless them with fertility and children.
The Jewish laws are basically saying "We don't believe that!"
There is a new translation of the Bible just coming into print.
The Oxford University 4th edition has corrected the way many of the "clobber" passages are translated,
and in the study footnotes has made it clear
that there is NO BIBLICAL COMDEMNATION OF HOMOSEXUALITY as we think of it today.
the nature boy
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john937 said:
uh oh, you're not going to make a lot of friends by saying that.
VicTusDeuS
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If they're MILF's, even better!
Taps said:
Ok, I have to disagee with you on this. Most studies have shown that biggoted behaviour is ingrained at an early age....like kindergarten or sooner. Personally, I think exposing kids to different lifestyles early (and no, this doesn't mean encouraging or promoting that lifestyle) is a good thing. What's wrong with showing tolerance?
I know a lesbian couple with a 10 year old son. He never gets hasseled by his friends or anyone in his peer group. They're just like "Rob has 2 moms...big deal." I think when kids are taught tolerance, it's much more benifical to them in the long run. Tolerance equals a greater acceptance of new ideas, which in turn helps them cope with all the bullshit life will throw at them.
Just my 2 cents.
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CAGED whiteman
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man i wish i had seen that
its funny how the gay community thinks they are gaining acceptance...there a cancer. i think god will take care of em.
its funny how the gay community thinks they are gaining acceptance...there a cancer. i think god will take care of em.
musclebrains
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Re: man i wish i had seen that
But what is God going to do for the mentally challenged bigot?
CAGED whiteman said:
But what is God going to do for the mentally challenged bigot?
Puddles
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I don't know what the show is that started this thread but I doubt that it's showing anything inappropriate to the kids. My daughter watches a lot of Nick and I will have to take a look at it myself...can someone give me the name of the show?
Unfortunately these days, there are so many broken homes, women with children from multiple relationships where there is no stability. What's wrong with two women or two men raising a child as long as they are a happy, loving group of people? Children learn from the actions of the adults who raise them. It is better to have two caring parents as opposed to just one parent, or a bad couple. I'm sure the show isn't showing the parents being intimate, which would be inappropriate even if they are a hetro couple. Most of the kids will probably just think of the two adults as roommates/best friends. And there's nothing wrong with a hug and a kiss...I greet all of my friends and relatives that way.
Look at how openminded and unjudging the little children are. They make friends, either same sex or opposite, it doesn't matter, they will still hold hands as they're walking, they will still hug each other...until the ideas of sexuality are dumped upon them by others.
Once, when my daughter was about 5 or 6 y.o., she said that she wished girls could marry other girls because she loved her best friend so much that she would want to marry her when she grew up. That really made me think. SHE understood better than most adults that purely loving someone is what the best relationships are based on...simple friendship and love. She knew nothing of sexuality at that time.
As for the religious aspect...religions are constantly changing as people gain knowledge about what makes things go round. I don't know anyone who believes that the moon is a god these days. I don't have any firm traditional religious beliefs, although I was raised Catholic. I believe in being kind, loving, honest, and respectful of others, hurting no one and being tollerant of people with different ideas. I think those things are the basis of most modern religions anyway. If what you are doing is kind, loving, honest, and respectful, how can it not be the right way to live?
Sharing your love with someone is special...I don't think it's wrong if that person happens to be the same sex.
Unfortunately these days, there are so many broken homes, women with children from multiple relationships where there is no stability. What's wrong with two women or two men raising a child as long as they are a happy, loving group of people? Children learn from the actions of the adults who raise them. It is better to have two caring parents as opposed to just one parent, or a bad couple. I'm sure the show isn't showing the parents being intimate, which would be inappropriate even if they are a hetro couple. Most of the kids will probably just think of the two adults as roommates/best friends. And there's nothing wrong with a hug and a kiss...I greet all of my friends and relatives that way.
Look at how openminded and unjudging the little children are. They make friends, either same sex or opposite, it doesn't matter, they will still hold hands as they're walking, they will still hug each other...until the ideas of sexuality are dumped upon them by others.
Once, when my daughter was about 5 or 6 y.o., she said that she wished girls could marry other girls because she loved her best friend so much that she would want to marry her when she grew up. That really made me think. SHE understood better than most adults that purely loving someone is what the best relationships are based on...simple friendship and love. She knew nothing of sexuality at that time.
As for the religious aspect...religions are constantly changing as people gain knowledge about what makes things go round. I don't know anyone who believes that the moon is a god these days. I don't have any firm traditional religious beliefs, although I was raised Catholic. I believe in being kind, loving, honest, and respectful of others, hurting no one and being tollerant of people with different ideas. I think those things are the basis of most modern religions anyway. If what you are doing is kind, loving, honest, and respectful, how can it not be the right way to live?
Sharing your love with someone is special...I don't think it's wrong if that person happens to be the same sex.
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