ok, when u saw this it sounded a little hard.
i dont mean to be disrespectful.
i just read this thread that Nelson wrote about eating food and growing more than if u were on aas.....something like that, good thread. but it seemed that many people dont know that much to make up a good lean bulking diet.
and even in other threads ive read ive gotten the impression that people just eat things that are healthy and sometimes junk food but sometimes the eat more or less than that the need....that they just eat but dont have that much of a clue what a proper diet is.
in the diet forum, people post up what the eat, ok, maybe a tablespoon there, 3 medium potatoes there, but its better to keep exactly everything right so u know that ure doing right.
and maybe 50 cals over/under the need isnt going to do much in day or two but in a long while....and in cutting diets...why waste time?
me, i make sure i always stay over 500 cals a day over my need. i dont think u need more than that.
i work as a warehouse worker so i up the cals a bit, maybe 8-900 cals. and on very hard and intensive days when suppersetting legs and back or shit like that add few extra 2-300 cals. but count out the ratios.
everything wroted down, proteins,carbs and fats.
i weigh everything i eat, and have it wroted down, so i KNOW what im doing wrong if im getting too chubby or gaining more fat that muscle.
if that doesnt work for me i change ratios on the proteins or the carbs or the fat.
ive even heard that some say that offseason cycle or not, u must eat to u feel sick.....that u must eat everything.
now, ive never taking aas before. in a few weeks ill start my first.
i know that since ure gaining muscle u must also upp the cals, mybe 200-300 a week or every 1,5 week,
but not overeating.