I Have an Array of Gear, Design me the best Cycle.

[cgar1228]

Was thinking:
Bro, you just have so much stuff going here. I know that you really want to bulk, but man this is just too vast. I would like to see you narrow it down from 5 to 3 substances because of the potential sides from all of this.
We or I should say I discussed the Deca, Test and Winny with you above.
So moving on from there...
So now we need to decide between the Var and Adrol.
Of the 2 my choice would be the Var and here is why.
The Adrol will def put big gains on you, but you gonna look like shit too. Adrol is also a pretty dam toxic substance.
You are gonna be using Test, Deca and next. So you really need to be aware of any and all side effects and toxicisity. You are giving your bod a hell of a lot to deal with here so you should be thinking GENTLE. Dude we only get one body so we all need to take good care of what we have!
Var is considered one of the safest of all the oral steroids and lest toxic. Also it is gonna give you good LEAN gains.
Btw I ment to ask why 10 weeks as opposed to 12?
So here is what we now have for you,
Week
1-10/12 550mg Test Sust
1-8/10 300mg Deca
1-6/8 50 mg Var ED

Now youre being nice to yourself and you should see excellent gains but not so wet and sloppy. You will still be taking care of your joints and get a high rbc count. Youre not being real toxic to your liver.
Bro you like doing cycles, not good and not bad thats who you are. So just take it easy on yourself and enjoy. You dont need to do it all at once. youre still young and have lots of time.
Also with the Deca you need to eat carbs to get the benefits.
On this cycle you wont need to do such a hard cut either.
Good luck!

Great advice here bro!

The only thing I would mention is if you have used Deca before and don't have problems recovering then great...use zedheds protocol and also bump the cycle up 2 wks as he suggested.

IF it has taken you a while to recover in the past OR you have never taken deca then I would bump the dose to 200mg or less per wk and keep the cycle short. The deca advice comes from a well respected member (Omega) and will prevent you from shutting down as some people do after a deca cycle. He mentions in his protocol for deca that it isn't necessary to go over 200mg. I have witnessed first hand that 400mg of deca/wk will do about as much as 200mg/wk will so there is no need to bump it any higher.

Also here is what you need to do to help your body recover:

During cycle-
1)HCG from begining of wk 2. E4D 250iu and discontinue with last Test inj.
2) Aromasin or Adex

PCT- (Start 2 wks after last Test shot)
3)Clomid: 50mg per day 4 wks
4)Forma-stanzol: 2x per day 5 pumps, 6wks
5)Unleashed:4 caps daily, 6wks

 

[zedhed]

^^^Good advice from a bro that knows!^^^

 

[stevesmi]

you have done 3 cycles and yet you still are not sure about a PCT? something doesn't smell right here.

you should know what works and what doesn't for you already.

 

[kc2010]

Zedhed..

I appreciate the replies and advice.. I have tweeked it somewhat, whats your thoughts now?

Bulk:
Wk 1-3 40mg ED Anadrol (simply a quick jumpstart to gains)
Wk 1-8 50mg ED Anavar
Wk 1-15 550mg Test Sus
Wk 1-12 250mg Deca

No Winny, Lowered Deca, and Shortened Adrol Amount. Lengthened Cycle to 15 instead of 10 wks.

Cut:
Wk 1-3 50mg ED Tren Ace
Wk 1-8 50mg ED Anavar
Wk 1-10 400mg EQ
Wk 1-12 400mg Test Sus?
.....Wk 7-12 50mg ED Winny

What test if any would you recommend for this cutting cycle?

Do you like this Bulk and Cut Cycle Better? Im liking the looks of it, your thoughts appreciated!!

 

[zedhed]

Zedhed..

I appreciate the replies and advice.. I have tweeked it somewhat, whats your thoughts now?

Bulk:
*Wk 1-3 40mg ED Anadrol (simply a quick jumpstart to gains)*
Wk 1-8 50mg ED Anavar
Wk 1-15 550mg Test Sus
**Wk 1-12 250mg Deca

No Winny, Lowered Deca, and Shortened Adrol Amount. Lengthened Cycle to 15 instead of 10 wks.

Cut:
Wk 1-3 50mg ED Tren Ace**
Wk 1-8 50mg ED Anavar
Wk 1-10 400mg EQ
Wk 1-12 400mg Test Sus? Enan for me cuz of the EQ.
.....Wk 7-12 50mg ED Winny

What test if any would you recommend for this cutting cycle?

Do you like this Bulk and Cut Cycle Better? Im liking the looks of it, your thoughts appreciated!!

*You like this so most likely you are gonna end up using it anyway. This is a highly liver toxic steroid. This substance can shut your shit down super hard and cause hair loss.
Ok that being said, if youre gonna use it I would tell you to decrease it to 25mgs/day. Personnaly I would not use this with Deca and would choose Deca over it everytime. Nuff said. I like the rest of your bulk, you stetched it out, good!
**If you use the Anadrol do not start the Deca till your off of it. NO OVERLAP!

**To me Tren is HELLAPOWER. I would say not to use this substance until the time that the others dont work for you any more. But I am conservative is case you hadnt got that yet.
8 weeks on the Var is a little bit long for that kind of stress on your liver. If you insist on doing it get and use Liv52 or something similar and Milk Thistle, drink boat loads of H2o. Also get somekind of kidney supp. Also at your size I dont think youre gonna put on that much fat that Tren will be necessary. Keep your diet relatively clean. 3-4 (big) meals/day + a shake or 2. You wanna slow your metab down and this will do so.

EQ will stimulate your appetite, but you can take an appetite suppresent. ( Example,phentemine, 37.5 mg/day)
With EQ you must also use Test cuz EQ shuts your shit down.

You need to be careful doing 2 orals at the same time. Get all the liver protection that you can. You might not want to do that overlap that you have above.

Now you gotta post up your PCT bro,