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Gotta give it a few weeks to really kick in, at end of week 2 is when I really started to notice. Arms would tingle from pumps after workout, was nice feeling...
I was at 40mg Ed and ended up gaining about 10 lbs and getting down to 5-6% bf @ 183lbs. Be careful tho as with anything and make sure you are:
-Watching blood pressure, var can cause it to get crazy - I was 155 over 98 at one point (ask qs on the board Im no expert but I read tht taking test can help w this)
- have pct on hand.... Read http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/pct-post-steroid-cycle-therapy/post-cycle-therapy-376177.html now! Make sure you have clomid and nolva, you don't want to fuck up like I did. This will surpress you! Not saying it to scare you off it but just a warning because there is a lot of mixed info out there about it. I was shut down at 40mg ( at least surpressed to a level of 170 total test)...
- would recommend adding a natty test booster into pct to
- and have you blood tested eow or ew if you can, might sound like overkill and it ur body but Its a good idea to keep a close eye on you test, liver counts and cholesterol... Basically get a full panel test done. Orals fuck your system up a bit.
- might be to late now but you should have gotten a full panel test before starting so you have an idea of why you are normally.
- run liver support like milk thistle
- multi vit
- fish oil
Not saying it'll happen if you don't do these things but, when coming off I experienced horrible anxiety and withdrawal systems from it. Here's why,
I saw my bp being so high, freaked out and quit cold turkey. Big mistake! Some guys will tell you it's fine to stop right away but I can tell you from experience to let yourself down slowly. And to this day it's done slowly in the medical world to. My doc had to give me steroids to come down off the var. I found a lot of help in that post above on how to properly come off (http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/pct-post-steroid-cycle-therapy/post-cycle-therapy-376177.html)... For me when I stopped I believe I had an estrogen rebound and that's what caused the anxiety because I was supplying my body with essentially fake test and it stopped producing so much of it's own. When I quit like I did, the estrogen levels stayed the same unlike the test and all the sudden I had a surplus of estrogen and not enough test. Hence, then the anxiety was brought on hard.
And to this day (3mths later) I'm still surpressed (270 total test, should be in 600-1000 range at my age.. 22) and have daily anxiety problems... Again heres why, I went straight to doc and told all... Most docs have no clue wht to do and blame it on life causing you anx/depression, saying tht w down economy and people having added stress even if you don't think it effects you it really does and all this other bs so they can dismiss u and send you home with xanex and anti-depressants... There wrong tho.. I have been listening to docs (primary care doc, urgent care doc, er doc, urologist, and now an endocrinologist who knows low t is my prob and is helping, but the rest don't know about endocrine stuff so bypass em and go to an endo if younhave a prob) tell me to do nothing and let my body come back on it's own, which it will but who wants to wait 6mths to a yr of anxiety attack and depression? Fuck that, learn how to properly do a pct!
All that happened to me because I came off wrong. Now I finally made my mind up and started doing androbolix which is a natty test booster and supposably a pretty good natty estrogen blocker.. So far in 11 days I have found tht my libido is up, lifts are more intense, sense of well being is higher and lasting longer throughout day and basically my mood is just better, almost normal. I will have blood test to show if anything has changed in a ten day period on tht I will share with you later this week. But so far I can feel tht it's deff helping me feel better. Xanex use is down to .0625 mg a day now. That's almost nothing
!
During the cycle I tended to have times tht I felt a little woozy or faint and this was directly because of the high blood pressure and my body not being used to it. Again some people can deal with it and some have no idea it even went up. But when your in tune with your body you tend to notice a lot of shit. If this happens, laying down helped me to get by.
Sorry to writing a novel but I just wanna make sure no one has to go through what I did.
I was at 40mg Ed and ended up gaining about 10 lbs and getting down to 5-6% bf @ 183lbs. Be careful tho as with anything and make sure you are:
-Watching blood pressure, var can cause it to get crazy - I was 155 over 98 at one point (ask qs on the board Im no expert but I read tht taking test can help w this)
- have pct on hand.... Read http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/pct-post-steroid-cycle-therapy/post-cycle-therapy-376177.html now! Make sure you have clomid and nolva, you don't want to fuck up like I did. This will surpress you! Not saying it to scare you off it but just a warning because there is a lot of mixed info out there about it. I was shut down at 40mg ( at least surpressed to a level of 170 total test)...
- would recommend adding a natty test booster into pct to
- and have you blood tested eow or ew if you can, might sound like overkill and it ur body but Its a good idea to keep a close eye on you test, liver counts and cholesterol... Basically get a full panel test done. Orals fuck your system up a bit.
- might be to late now but you should have gotten a full panel test before starting so you have an idea of why you are normally.
- run liver support like milk thistle
- multi vit
- fish oil
Not saying it'll happen if you don't do these things but, when coming off I experienced horrible anxiety and withdrawal systems from it. Here's why,
I saw my bp being so high, freaked out and quit cold turkey. Big mistake! Some guys will tell you it's fine to stop right away but I can tell you from experience to let yourself down slowly. And to this day it's done slowly in the medical world to. My doc had to give me steroids to come down off the var. I found a lot of help in that post above on how to properly come off (http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/pct-post-steroid-cycle-therapy/post-cycle-therapy-376177.html)... For me when I stopped I believe I had an estrogen rebound and that's what caused the anxiety because I was supplying my body with essentially fake test and it stopped producing so much of it's own. When I quit like I did, the estrogen levels stayed the same unlike the test and all the sudden I had a surplus of estrogen and not enough test. Hence, then the anxiety was brought on hard.
And to this day (3mths later) I'm still surpressed (270 total test, should be in 600-1000 range at my age.. 22) and have daily anxiety problems... Again heres why, I went straight to doc and told all... Most docs have no clue wht to do and blame it on life causing you anx/depression, saying tht w down economy and people having added stress even if you don't think it effects you it really does and all this other bs so they can dismiss u and send you home with xanex and anti-depressants... There wrong tho.. I have been listening to docs (primary care doc, urgent care doc, er doc, urologist, and now an endocrinologist who knows low t is my prob and is helping, but the rest don't know about endocrine stuff so bypass em and go to an endo if younhave a prob) tell me to do nothing and let my body come back on it's own, which it will but who wants to wait 6mths to a yr of anxiety attack and depression? Fuck that, learn how to properly do a pct!
All that happened to me because I came off wrong. Now I finally made my mind up and started doing androbolix which is a natty test booster and supposably a pretty good natty estrogen blocker.. So far in 11 days I have found tht my libido is up, lifts are more intense, sense of well being is higher and lasting longer throughout day and basically my mood is just better, almost normal. I will have blood test to show if anything has changed in a ten day period on tht I will share with you later this week. But so far I can feel tht it's deff helping me feel better. Xanex use is down to .0625 mg a day now. That's almost nothing
! During the cycle I tended to have times tht I felt a little woozy or faint and this was directly because of the high blood pressure and my body not being used to it. Again some people can deal with it and some have no idea it even went up. But when your in tune with your body you tend to notice a lot of shit. If this happens, laying down helped me to get by.
Sorry to writing a novel but I just wanna make sure no one has to go through what I did.
