Tren E/ace together?

[TravFlex91]

220 today only 6 days into the drol, that's with clothes too so 218 give or take! And yeah your right it was kinda pointless worth a shot though hahaha

Buddy no judgement here! I've done all the pointless shit. Lol
What's your height? And what's your cals/macros ?

You've intrigued me lol

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Buddy no judgement here! I've done all the pointless shit. Lol
What's your height? And what's your cals/macros ?

You've intrigued me lol

No doubt haha,

I'm 5'11

My cals are cycled, but not to drastically, basically my training days I end up just over 4000kcal give or take 100 or 2 (I keep 20 mins of cardio in every day as well just LISS)

Rest days are about 3000 (still do my cardio on these days) difference mainly coming from carbs

Macros are approx 45/35/20
C/P/F

Usually on Saturdays I'll add in some shitty food like pizza and cookies or something hahaha doesn't seem to affect me to much cept the sodium bloats me for a couple days but I'm strong as all hell after these days for sure.

Also I'm not a huge advocate of nutrient timing, I think it's fairly irrelevant in the big picture. But on this go o have based all my carbs around training with mostly trace carbs with my proteins and fats later in the evening. Don't know if it's kept me leaner or not but the way my diet is set up it works out anyways with my meal plan so why not.

 

[TravFlex91]

No doubt haha,

I'm 5'11

My cals are cycled, but not to drastically, basically my training days I end up just over 4000kcal give or take 100 or 2 (I keep 20 mins of cardio in every day as well just LISS)

Rest days are about 3000 (still do my cardio on these days) difference mainly coming from carbs

Macros are approx 45/35/20
C/P/F

Usually on Saturdays I'll add in some shitty food like pizza and cookies or something hahaha doesn't seem to affect me to much cept the sodium bloats me for a couple days but I'm strong as all hell after these days for sure.

Man with 4000 cals a day you could eat "dirty " foods every day.
And sodium is actually a great tool regarding pumps lol.
Yeah I was going to say I only outweigh you by a few lbs I'm 223 naked empty stomach but I'm also 3" shorter lol.

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Man with 4000 cals a day you could eat "dirty " foods every day.
And sodium is actually a great tool regarding pumps lol.
Yeah I was going to say I only outweigh you by a few lbs I'm 223 naked empty stomach but I'm also 3" shorter lol.

Lolol man I shit you not I still like eating "clean" 95% of the time because I honestly have an endless appetite... Like I NEED volume in my meals I can punish 4000 cals and still be fucking hungry when I go to sleep awesome for da bulk horrid for the cuts.

When I cut I have to basically eliminate all carbs except endless veggies or else I'm just absolutely starving all day and then when I'm in a mass phase eating carbs all day I'm still hungry but I eat like 2 extra meals so it's not as bad Lolol. I still thrown in like fiber one brownies an shit like that but then I just let loose once a week and I stay lean that way

 

[TravFlex91]

Lolol man I shit you not I still like eating "clean" 95% of the time because I honestly have an endless appetite... Like I NEED volume in my meals I can punish 4000 cals and still be fucking hungry when I go to sleep awesome for da bulk horrid for the cuts.

When I cut I have to basically eliminate all carbs except endless veggies or else I'm just absolutely starving all day and then when I'm in a mass phase eating carbs all day I'm still hungry but I eat like 2 extra meals so it's not as bad Lolol. I still thrown in like fiber one brownies an shit like that but then I just let loose once a week and I stay lean that way

I eat cleaner foods mostly for the health benefits and the micronutrients. And as much as I believe macros are macros it's what I'm accustomed to and I feel more full on whole foods as well.

 

[trt newbie]

Hey guys I'm going back-and-forth on using Tren ace or enth on my next cut cycle I'm currently on both but want to pick one for my next cycle. Do you guys notice a difference in dryness between either one? Will ace make me less lethargic? I will also be using adex for my first time for the test considering Tren doesn't aromatize so I know that will help. I would prefer to use e because it's cheaper mg/mg and less injections.. What's your guys's opinions..?

 

[trt newbie]

It's either 600ace a week or 800e a week along with 800test regardless

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Hey guys I'm going back-and-forth on using Tren ace or enth on my next cut cycle I'm currently on both but want to pick one for my next cycle. Do you guys notice a difference in dryness between either one? Will ace make me less lethargic? I will also be using adex for my first time for the test considering Tren doesn't aromatize so I know that will help. I would prefer to use e because it's cheaper mg/mg and less injections.. What's your guys's opinions..?

I notice no difference between the 2, I would opt for the enanthate. I hate being a pin Cuision as well, makes life so much easier just hittin a couple shots a week. The negligable difference in dryness and sides isn't worth the extra cost and injections IMO. Probably the only time I'll ever use ace again is pre contest if I decide to get on stage next year. Or if I'm cruising and I just want to run a quick 6 week cut or something like that before I blast on another bulk. Long eaters>short esters in my books cept for the time they take to reach peak blood levels. But can always kick with an oral or a short ester if patience isn't a virtue Lolol

 

[trt newbie]

I notice no difference between the 2, I would opt for the enanthate. I hate being a pin Cuision as well, makes life so much easier just hittin a couple shots a week. The negligable difference in dryness and sides isn't worth the extra cost and injections IMO. Probably the only time I'll ever use ace again is pre contest if I decide to get on stage next year. Or if I'm cruising and I just want to run a quick 6 week cut or something like that before I blast on another bulk. Long eaters>short esters in my books cept for the time they take to reach peak blood levels. But can always kick with an oral or a short ester if patience isn't a virtue Lolol

Nice! You sold me on it!! Enth it is lol I'll use the cash difference on drol lol and maybe some winny again for the end of the cycle..

 

[TravFlex91]

I notice no difference between the 2, I would opt for the enanthate. I hate being a pin Cuision as well, makes life so much easier just hittin a couple shots a week. The negligable difference in dryness and sides isn't worth the extra cost and injections IMO. Probably the only time I'll ever use ace again is pre contest if I decide to get on stage next year. Or if I'm cruising and I just want to run a quick 6 week cut or something like that before I blast on another bulk. Long eaters>short esters in my books cept for the time they take to reach peak blood levels. But can always kick with an oral or a short ester if patience isn't a virtue Lolol

This.


If it was me( keep in mind I love ace)

I would run prop and ace for 10 weeks.

If you opted to continue you could realistically introduce the longer Esther's at 8 weeks and continue on that route with less pinning frequency.
(I would run short Esther's the whole time )

Nothing beats the grainy dry look from prop and ace. I would even run eq in there.

I run tren for extended periods.


ONLY reason I'm on tren e right now is because I had 2 bottles sitting untouched.

As I peak and get closer to October/ possible show I'll swap for shorter Esther's.

I also like shorter Esther's in relation to sides- can hop off NOWSAP and start pct within a day or two.

Take it with a grain of salt.