to pardues, if leptigen really works show us some proof such as pics

[nclifter6feet6]

ok your product sounds real good. i really wanto buy it. you say leptigen decreases appetite, it makes you feel fed. ok understood. we all know the quickest way to loose fat is to drop calories really low like dropping fat and carbs to very low numbers lets say carbs around 50 and fats about 30. but keeping protien at a decent number 1 gram per pound of bodyweight. ok if this leptigen stuff works then i can eat like this and be full or be in a fed state and not be lethargic and have good amount of energy right? because my leptin will be high from your product ok...i know i loose fat fast as hell i can easily loose 15 pounds in one week off of a diet like this but no way in hell i can keep it up because my leptin levels get too low and i get too damn hungry. so show us some proof this works. you could have someone do a very low cal diet and give them the leptigen and if you product is what you say it is then they should still have good leptin levels. all it would take is just one week to trial the leptigen on some one on a low cal diet and take some before and after pics of a few people then take more pics at 2 weeks and so on. if you product works it would be easy as hell to get to 4 percent bodyfat

all i would have to do is eat enough protien and keep carbs and fats extremly low and lift weights an i could get ripped beyond belief because i would not feel lethargic and i wouldnt be hungry!!!!it would be like a miricale cure.

 

[nclifter6feet6]

i will most certainly buy your product if it keeps me from wanting excess carbs and fats and feel energized on a low cal diet. i would love to just eat 50 grams of carbs and 50 grams of fat perday and 230 protien a day and not feel hungry and get super ripped and feel great. i would save a ton on the food bill too!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[nclifter6feet6]

im guesstimating i need about 3500 calories a day to maintain my weight. and if i could drop those cals to about a 1000 a day and still keep leptin levels high AND appetite under control, i know for a fact id probably loose about a half pound a fat a day especially with this leptin booster. this product truly seems too good to be true.

 

[CytoMel]

I dont think that any single supplement or drug could keep your muscles and metabolism up high at 1000 cal a day or even 1500 cal a day unless you are a 99 pound girl.

 

[nclifter6feet6]

cytomel--

I dont think that any single supplement or drug could keep your muscles and metabolism up high at 1000 cal a day or even 1500 cal a day unless you are a 99 pound girl.

this is what par dues is claiming his product can do. he says it will raise leptin levels , and high leptin levels keep your metabolizm high

 

[CytoMel]

cytomel--

this is what par dues is claiming his product can do. he says it will raise leptin levels , and high leptin levels keep your metabolizm high

Yes he did say that and I think it will be a good product.

However did he say that you could take in 1000-1500 calories a day for a 230 muscular man and still raise leptin levels and keep the metabolism high? I think somehow it got applied to very low calorie diets like 1000-1500 and I dont know if thats what the product is for.

I think the product is for sustaining high metabolism and high leptin on good bodybuilder diets that induce fat loss to KEEP up the fat loss when diets get stuck, like 2500-3000 cal diets I suppose-NOT EXTREME LOW CALORIE DIETS I dont know if thats what lepti-gen is for.

Like I said before, I dont think any supplement/drug can keep leptin levels and the metabolism high at 1000-1500 calories a day...but we will have to find out

 

[SirWanksalot]

After reading Lyle McDonald's latest book, I would say that one could maintain muscle and lose fat on 1500Kcals if one combined Bromocriptine (Leptin replacer) and Meridia (appetite suppresant).

SirWanksAlot

 

[Par Deus]

Pics can be faked, so we will probably never release promotional before and after pics -- It is great when real customers do them, as well as when they keep good measurements, training logs, etc., but that is different.

If you lose 15 lbs in a week, 12 of it is water, which you will not lose after the first week, so of course, you cannot keep that up.

In theory, LeptiGen should allow you to keep your metabolism up (and keep LBM losses down), even with very low calories. Leptin certainly can, and on paper, LeptiGen looks like it should keep leptin up. The early testing certainly was very positive, but it was just three subjects.

 

[Par Deus]

Also, it should be kept in mind that LeptiGen (or even leptin) cannot replace a couple of things that you get from carbs, such as its effects on blood glucose (energy), muscle glycogen, and insulin (anticatabolism/anabolism).

So, while it should certainly improve energy levels and LBM retention, they still might not be quite what they would be on maintenence calories.

 

[plornive]

Also, it should be kept in mind that LeptiGen (or even leptin) cannot replace a couple of things that you get from carbs, such as its effects on blood glucose (energy), muscle glycogen, and insulin (anticatabolism/anabolism).

So, while it should certainly improve energy levels and LBM retention, they still might not be quite what they would be on maintenence calories.

Par...
Do you think the anticatabolic effects of clen or ECA combined with Leptigen would have a synnergistic effect? There isn't much muscle glycogen with clenbuterol use, but muscle ATP levels are high and there isn't much muscle catabolism.

And what happened to your message board?