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The Biblical Believers....

redsamurai said:
it's quite relevant........the point I made about our overbearing government is.......IMO........it's a direct result of a christian society that has always sought to control people and tell them how to live their lives......and that's exactly what our government does, because of christian influence IMO. Now, when these senators discuss why a grown man should be forbidden from injecting himself with testosterone to improve his quality of life.....I'm not suggesting they reach for their bibles to see what Jesus had to say on the subject. What I'm suggesting is that most people in this country have been raised christian, ergo most people who run our government are some kind of christian.........and since christians feel that all life on earth should be controlled and we're animals that need constant saving from ourselves..........I'm making the argumentative leap that the reason I could possibly have a felony thrown at me for nothing more than being in possession of a fluid which is a synthetic copy of something already made in my own body........is that this country is overrun by overbearing knowitall christians who think I need to be saved from myself. Same thing with marijuana..........and even worse with that, because I feel marijuana can be very spiritual and people who use it properly begin to question too many things and come to their own conclusions about alot of things including........."spirituality"...............and that as we know, is a big no-no to the ruling christians..........because they want your spirituality to revolve around christ and nothing else. To allow otherwise is too lose control........which in the end is all religion is about.........controlling your and mine spiritual journey.........which to me is an offense that I will see all of them in hell for.
But what you guys are doing is labeling all Christians as being the tight assed WASP far right politician types. That isn't true and isn't fair. There are Christians who are loving, tolerant and do nice things for other people.

Your guys anger and venom toward the entire religion is misplaced.
 
There were some good Nazi's too. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rabe

John Rabe (November 23, 1882 – January 5, 1950) was a German businessman whose Nanjing Safety Zone sheltered some 200,000 Chinese from slaughter during the Nanjing Massacre.

Born in Hamburg, Germany, Rabe pursued a career in business and went to Africa for several years. In 1908 he left for China, and between 1910 and 1938, he worked for the Siemens AG China Corporation in Shenyang, Beijing, Tianjin, Shanghai and later Nanjing.

On November 22, 1937, as the Imperial Japanese Army advanced on Nanjing, Rabe, along with other foreign nationals, organized the International Committee and drew up Nanjing Safety Zone to provide Chinese refugees with food and shelter upon the impending Japanese slaughter. He explained his reasons thus: "..there is a question of morality here.. I cannot bring myself for now to betray the trust these people have put in me, and it is touching to see how they believe in me." The zones were located on all of the foreign embassies and at Nanjing University. Rabe also opened up his properties to help 650 more refugees. The following massacre would allegedly kill hundreds of thousands of people, while Rabe and his zone administrators tried frantically to stop the atrocities. Although he tried to appeal to the Japanese by using his Nazi membership credentials, this had little effect.

On February 28, 1938 Rabe left Nanjing, traveling to Shanghai and then back to Germany. He showed films and photographs of Japanese atrocities in lecture presentations in Berlin and wrote to Hitler to use his influence to persuade the Japanese to stop any more inhumane violence. Instead, Rabe was detained and interrogated by the Gestapo and his letter to Hitler never sent. Due to the intervention of Siemens AG, he was released. He was allowed to keep evidence of the massacre, excluding the film, but was not allowed to lecture or write on the subject. Rabe would continue working for Siemens, which posted him briefly to the safety of Afghanistan. Until 1945 Rabe worked in the Berlin headquarters of the company.

After the war, Rabe was denounced for his Nazi Party membership and arrested by the Russians first and then by the British. However, investigations exonerated him of any wrongdoing. He was formally declared "de-Nazified" by the Allies in June 1946 but thereafter lived in poverty. Rabe was partly supported by the monthly food and money parcels sent by the Chinese government for his actions during the Rape of Nanjing.

In 1950, Rabe died of a stroke. In 1997 his tombstone was moved from Berlin to Nanjing where it received a place of honour at the massacre memorial site.

His war-time diaries are published in English as The Good German of Nanking (UK title) or The Good Man of Nanking (US title) (original German title: Der gute Deutsche von Nanking).
 
javaguru said:
There were some good Nazi's too. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rabe

John Rabe (November 23, 1882 – January 5, 1950) was a German businessman whose Nanjing Safety Zone sheltered some 200,000 Chinese from slaughter during the Nanjing Massacre.

Born in Hamburg, Germany, Rabe pursued a career in business and went to Africa for several years. In 1908 he left for China, and between 1910 and 1938, he worked for the Siemens AG China Corporation in Shenyang, Beijing, Tianjin, Shanghai and later Nanjing.

On November 22, 1937, as the Imperial Japanese Army advanced on Nanjing, Rabe, along with other foreign nationals, organized the International Committee and drew up Nanjing Safety Zone to provide Chinese refugees with food and shelter upon the impending Japanese slaughter. He explained his reasons thus: "..there is a question of morality here.. I cannot bring myself for now to betray the trust these people have put in me, and it is touching to see how they believe in me." The zones were located on all of the foreign embassies and at Nanjing University. Rabe also opened up his properties to help 650 more refugees. The following massacre would allegedly kill hundreds of thousands of people, while Rabe and his zone administrators tried frantically to stop the atrocities. Although he tried to appeal to the Japanese by using his Nazi membership credentials, this had little effect.

On February 28, 1938 Rabe left Nanjing, traveling to Shanghai and then back to Germany. He showed films and photographs of Japanese atrocities in lecture presentations in Berlin and wrote to Hitler to use his influence to persuade the Japanese to stop any more inhumane violence. Instead, Rabe was detained and interrogated by the Gestapo and his letter to Hitler never sent. Due to the intervention of Siemens AG, he was released. He was allowed to keep evidence of the massacre, excluding the film, but was not allowed to lecture or write on the subject. Rabe would continue working for Siemens, which posted him briefly to the safety of Afghanistan. Until 1945 Rabe worked in the Berlin headquarters of the company.

After the war, Rabe was denounced for his Nazi Party membership and arrested by the Russians first and then by the British. However, investigations exonerated him of any wrongdoing. He was formally declared "de-Nazified" by the Allies in June 1946 but thereafter lived in poverty. Rabe was partly supported by the monthly food and money parcels sent by the Chinese government for his actions during the Rape of Nanjing.

In 1950, Rabe died of a stroke. In 1997 his tombstone was moved from Berlin to Nanjing where it received a place of honour at the massacre memorial site.

His war-time diaries are published in English as The Good German of Nanking (UK title) or The Good Man of Nanking (US title) (original German title: Der gute Deutsche von Nanking).
now you are comparing Christians to Nazis? :rolleyes:

You are so bitter that you aren't being very rational.
 
heatherrae said:
now you are comparing Christians to Nazis? :rolleyes:

You are so bitter that you aren't being very rational.
Religion and Nationalism are the two greatest evils ever to plague mankind. Actually, Nazism was a "new religion" and was meant to replace christianity. The SS were originally envisioned by Himmler to be a Teutonic order of templars.
 
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