sweet!!! my friends loss is my gain!!!

[wolfman87]

i don't have any experience with these compounds but if you post up your stats it would make things easier for those of us who do have experience with these to help you out. however i'm guessing that they are oral's so i would run some PCT or something else of that nature to help your liver out during something like that. good luck.

 

[lostinfitness]

seagull, aka closet newb. none of us here need to realize anything. Don't make me use my pimp hand. Look bro, don't bother running a cycle unless you buy more of what you have. It is not worth it. You are putting your body through unnecessary torture. It is irresponsible to your body. This thread has turned into a fawking newb opinion post, not experienced facts.

 

[SwitchMan]

lol simmer down lost. I'll pick up a couple more bottles. I obviously have a computer and I have researched enough to know what to dose with what and for how long. I'm just disappointed I couldn't get any information from elite.
26yrs
5'10
205
12% bf

Just took 3 months off and my last few gym visits were lame. It's hard to remember the hardwork that got me where I was and this cycle is a cheap easy shortcut. The unfortunate thing is a lot of these designer steroids are easier to obtain than real gear,way cheaper, and a lot more dangerous than real gear. I research shit before I take it and this is what this site is for(believe it or not). I wonder how many people (especially younger ones) are destroying their livers right now because they're scared to post on a site like this?

 

[jwo02]

Wow...you people are fucking pathetic. You can never answer the question at hand, all you want to do is criticize...and for the person who wanted the question rephrased...I really hope you're native language isn't English.


As far as the Epistane goes, I've been running it at 30 MGs/day with 100 MGs/day of H-Drol and have gotten pretty good results. Most people don't want to run Epistane at high dosages but if I could do it over I'd run it 50-70 MGs/day. You'll feel great.


I can't help with the Trenadrol dosing but I've heard lots of good things about the compound.


Good luck with your stack man.

 

[SwitchMan]

thanks jwo02. Support supps Perfect cycle, liv52,milkthistle? what are your plans for pct?

 

[jwo02]

I have Nolva on hand, that's all I'm planning for PCT.


I didn't get shut down, I have no testicular atrophy, no gyno that's related to these products.


I didn't preload a liver supplement because personally I think that the liver issues are blown out of the water. Your liver is a very resilient organ and in my opinion all lipid profiles will return back to normal after use is discontinued as long as you didn't abuse, by abuse I mean run a liver toxic oral for 10+ weeks.


I hear nothing but good things about cycle support, though. I believe it contains milk thistle so you'll be covered if you're worried.


Something you'll need to look at for with Trenadrol I believe is progesterone induced gyno, which can't be helped with Nolva as far as I know. You can Google or hopefully someone can chime in, but I think you'll need to order something called Dostinex. One of the site sponsers(4rx or eClen)should have it I guess.


Hope I helped you with at least some of your issues and maybe a more experienced member can chime in for your unanswered questions. Sorry this post was so long winded.

 

[seagull]

Hey lost, have you tried these products he talks about. Dont you think he could make decent gains from these? You dont gotta threaten to hit me with your pimp hand.lol i am just a little guy. Why you gotta be so tough? Dont hurt me.

 

[SwitchMan]

thanks jwo02

 

[jwo02]

No problem. I'm just sorry that our so called "veteran members" couldn't have helped you more.


Here are the results I have from my H-Drol Epistane stack. Pretty solid if you ask me.


http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-supplements/so-far-613340.html


Oh and I forgot to mention I'm running phytotest by PP through my last week of this and maybe the first week after I'm done. I guess that could be considered part of PCT.

 

[SwitchMan]

Thanks again for a helpful reply. I like pp's products(phyto-test tastes like shit though) you should try unleashed with it too. I ran them together felt good and had the most random boners EVER!!!!