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Stay Natural?

I have several Skip LaCour videos and I do believe him to be natural as crazy as that may seem. Crazy genetics yes and determination. he is spot on with training and diet and has been able to string it togethor for 10 plus years. Also weighing 190 lbs and muscular before picking up a weight seems to help also. [/B][/QUOTE]

Skip is not natural. You may want to believe this but the truth is he takes as much as any of us. Maybe less then some pros but probably not much less. It is very easy to beat a urine test for steroids if you know what you are doing. Certain drugs can not be tested for, like hgh, insulin. And short acting drugs are out of your system so quick they may as well not be tested for. You can take a shot of suspension a few days before a drug test and come up clean. Same with orals. The so called drug-free bodybuilders of the team U are just more selective in what it is they use. When you can take the team U winners and they can place well in the nationals or usa, which a lot of them have, that is pretty clear proof that they are not natural.
 
Skip LaCour is definately not natural. He admitted using AS on a BBC documentary hosted by Louis Theroux.

Every pro bodybuilder and just about all competitive bodybuilder use drugs. It does not mean they are cheating as we all know it. I have seen 'Natural' shows where people have had bitch tits on stage and personally know of a 'natural' competitor that just uses fast clearing steroids as well as all sorts of other things so that he won't get a positive test result. Many also take gear for years and then stop and do natural shows despite using them in the past. Personally I do not agree with entering a natural show using gear but it is sadly the way that it is. Yes there may be the odd person that can do it but they are definately the minority.

I say go for it and enter a regional show. Gear is just another tool in your arsenal, not what is going to make you a champion. To do that you need dedication that no amount of gear can give.
 
strengthmonster,

what AS did skip lacour admit to using...i am interested as i am a very good friend of skip...he has openly admitted to using clen when it was legal a few yrs back.
 
Ok this isnt like deciding which degree you should do. Man its easy are you ready to make some sacrifice ? do you have a goal ? if yes well the decision shouldnt be so tuff
 
He just said vet products but we all know what that means. He was also asked about side effects and ended up looking like a prick as he just shrugged the question off, rather than explaining things properly.
 
My advise to you after reading your post is to stay natural. You have too many concerns with how you would feel after using. This is my view on the subject: If you aren't %100 sure you want to do a cycle and that afterwards you will feel great about what you have done then don't do it. Hope this helps and that you make the right choice for you.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
Beezers said:
If you dedicate your life to bodybuilding then you've earned the right to to use AS without the consent or approval of anyone. Genetics can only get you so far. For those of us who do make this a lifestyle we shure as hell better get every ounce of muscle we can. Nobody can decide for you. You know this. What is the advantage of being natural? Why won't you be able to look in the mirror and be proud of you gains while on a cycle? Chances are you will have put more effort and soul into those gains than any of the ones you achieved naturally. Just because you use AS does not mean the gains are not earned. They most certainly are. The most common misconception about AS users is that it's liquid muscle or "magic" muscle. It isn't. These people busted thier ass harder than any normal person could imagine. They pour sweat daily and endure excrutiating pain to better thier body. They take time to make it to the gym and give it every ounce of soul...no excuses. No lazy asses here. AS users are remarkably disciplined with thier diets. Most joe scmoes could never dream of having the will power to eat the way we bodybuilders do. AS is a right we have earned through our hard word and unmatched determination to our strict lifestyle. No one can deny your gains would be true...not even you. And one more final point I'd like to make. The Musclemania and Team Universe competitors...they arn't natural...surprise!

Excellent post bro - I couldn't have said it better myself! Its like a way of life for us and those "normal" lazy people that try to discredit all the hard work it takes to build our bodies can all go to hell!
 
Skip

Thanks for the posts guys very good discussion. I posed the question on the state of natural bodybuilding and more specificaly skip la cour's drug use on the getbig.com message board. Skip La Cour himself has replied and denied any previous or current usage and went into specifics about his diet and cardio. I know I know it could be any one posting as skip but the details and vocabulary used lead me to believe it is him. I would be interested to hear more info on this documentary and other information used to assess skip La cour's drug use. I have met skip in person and he is big but his achievements look attainable with genetics and persistence. Check out getbig.com it is an interesting message board that deals with more the pro-side of things gossip. Later
 
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