Question About Over Training....

[DJLegacy2k1]

I know this is a well debated topic, but me and my cousin were just talking about it.

You always see the advice, "Cut back on the cardio, 5 days is too much", or something to that point. But what about the people playing football or basketball, more football because of mass, but, they have practices 5 times a week at least and every day there is a cardio work out of some kind, not counting game day.

Now break that down to a normal person who is trying to get into good shape. We dont have "practices" everyday, we have the gym, or our workout. Sure some probably bangout the weights as hard as pro athletes but theres always that "your doing to much cardio" post for everyone. What is the difference in an average person doing say 5 days of cardio, maybe 3 days moderate to light pace for 30-45mins, and maybe 2 days HIIT.

Just curious to get some oppinions from you guys...

 

[SgtSlaughter]

Let me start out with this: Your body will adapt/get used to whatever you're throwing at it... whether it's 5 miles a day, or 1 miles a week.

Overtraining is usually refered to "too much weight training." Personally I don't belive in that when one is trying to gain strength. There's only under eating and under sleeping, nutrition and sleep and the body recovers just fine... everyone's has different recovery rates as well. For "normal" heart health I belive it's generally accepted that 3 days of cardio at 30 mins per session is good for you.

Your question about the difference in an average person doing 5 days of cardio, maybe 3 days moderate...ect. Are you asking if this is ok? If so, yes... it's not going to kill you but if you're going for mass gaining it will hinder you somewhat because you're burning calories with cardio, unless you up your intake greatly.

I think that's it...

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

Of course alot of cardio isnt suggested when bulking...I'm looking more along the cutting lines...Sorry about that.

 

[mm107]

Let me start out with this: Your body will adapt/get used to whatever you're throwing at it... whether it's 5 miles a day, or 1 miles a week.

Overtraining is usually refered to "too much weight training." Personally I don't belive in that when one is trying to gain strength. There's only under eating and under sleeping, nutrition and sleep and the body recovers just fine... everyone's has different recovery rates as well. For "normal" heart health I belive it's generally accepted that 3 days of cardio at 30 mins per session is good for you.

Your question about the difference in an average person doing 5 days of cardio, maybe 3 days moderate...ect. Are you asking if this is ok? If so, yes... it's not going to kill you but if you're going for mass gaining it will hinder you somewhat because you're burning calories with cardio, unless you up your intake greatly.

I think that's it...

Im with Sarge on this one! No such thing as overtraining, only undereating.

Yea, i dont run at all on my bulker, maybe 1 -2 week just for cardiovascular reasons. Ive heard it promotes blood flow in the body, and wwhy wouldnt i want alot of blood running through my muscles during a workout.

but as sgt said, your body Adapts. thats why overtraining with cardio is heard. You can run 2 mils a day, but might not be neccessary just starting your routine, yes by the end of your routine you might be running 5miles a day for fat loss

 

[*Bunny*]

theres always that "your doing to much cardio" post for everyone. What is the difference in an average person doing say 5 days of cardio, maybe 3 days moderate to light pace for 30-45mins, and maybe 2 days HIIT.

Just curious to get some oppinions from you guys...

There will always be people who say "you're doing too much cardio" ... "Type of Cardio & how much" is a subject of debate & for those that think, sure, 5 days is fine, you'll get a few more who say it's too much .... Also you will get the "steady state is better than HIIT" and vice versa. It's all subjective & goal dependant.

In addition, your diet is very important. I forget who said "Cardio is only an extension of your diet" (sorry guys) and I think that statment is spot on. I also used "abs are made in the kitchen" the other day & a trainer looked at me like I was nuts. LOL

Anyway, IMO, I think 5 days of cardio as listed above is fine if fat loss is your main priority. I would even go 3 days HIIT 2 days mod, but again and speaking from experience, no amount of cardio will make up for a crappy diet.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

Yeah see me, I normally like to do a couple extra days of cardio on non lifting days because if I do nothing, I feel like I wasted a day...But yet a bunch of people are saying that doing cardio 5 days a week is going to be bad for cutting and Im going to be doing more harm than good....

 

[*Bunny*]

Yeah see me, I normally like to do a couple extra days of cardio on non lifting days because if I do nothing, I feel like I wasted a day...But yet a bunch of people are saying that doing cardio 5 days a week is going to be bad for cutting and Im going to be doing more harm than good....

I can relate that that statement ^^.

I do believe if you are not feeding your muscles/body adequately, then yes, too much cardio can do more harm than good.

 

[alex2678]

Losing muscle has more to do with poor diet than excess cardio in my opinion. I used to workout with a bunch of wrestlers in college and all of them did hours of cardio and mat work everday. Not one of them benched under 315 pounds and strength losses were nonexistent as long as their calories were high enough. Since your cutting and lowering cals, you do have to make sure your not going too far below maintenence and start losing size. 500-1000 calories a day or 1-2 lbs. of fat per week is the maximum amount you should expect to be losing.

 

[mm107]

yea, bunny nails it each time. Your diet has to be onpoint. Abs are made in the kitchen. If you feed your body right it will love you trust me.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

For Reinforcement...

Calories In < Calories Out = Weight Loss

^^ plain and simple


P.S. Doing cardio on your off lifting day while cutting is probably a good idea.