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Thanks Cali!! Target calorie is 1720, carbs aren't all that low yet. Today they ended up being 162. Still kinda hungry, still have a headache. I ate a shit ton of green beans to try to fill me up at dinner. They were oh so flavorful. Sarcasm. :)

Hmm... Does fitday go off your lean body mass or just your weight? Keep in mind these calculations are based on the average woman and chances are you have more muscle than that.

If you're super hungry, legitimately hungry, add food to your plan.

Don't just freestyle eat, but planfully amp up your protein portion sizes, for example (real food not drink mix or bars!)

If you've gotta eat a pound of veggies to keep your hunger in check you probably need to tweak something -- feel free to pm me your plan if you want a second set of eyes.
 
I must admit that I know nothing about competition dieting. That being said I used to get wicked bad headaches when I went to bed hungry and had a heavy training routine. I would eat a small meal of just protein before bed and it did the trick.
I've always used valerian root for insomnia. Some people take melatonin but that never cut it for me. If you can get past the smell, valerian helps alot. I am really curious about the passion flour that slat mentioned, though. I would like to try something natural for anxiety.
 
Inspired by cutie, Cali, and Donna, here comes my log!!!!

Yesterday was day one for my first competition diet!!! I made it through the day and no one was harmed!!! Lol

Starting weight yesterday was 176 and I woke up today at 173?!? Wtf!!! I was in calorie deficit yesterday and I worked out and I eliminated some foods, but holy shit!!! Three pounds in one day??? I'm sure it's not typical and I shouldn't start celebrating just yet. But I was just surprised.

For those of you with more dieting experience-- help with this please: I went to bed hungry last night. That's normal, right? Or just coincidence? And I had some insomnia. Coincidence or "normal"? And a pounding headache that still has not gone away.

I did add some new supplements-- fish oil and vitamin e. I cut out milk from my diet to start. Macro split yesterday was something like 45 p/38 c/20-something f.

What say you? :)

I'm gonna bombard you with questions!! LOL I was thinking about your post today, though, and thought I'd ask you a few more things.

How many weeks out are you? I'm sitting about 23 weeks, so I'm guessing you're around 19-20 weeks out?

Do you have a target stage weight? in other words...any idea how much you need to lose? I know we often underestimate what we will be for stage weight, although obviously muscle mass related. My first show, I started at 179 and was 135 for stage in 22 weeks but I had next to no muscle mass and still probably wasn't lean enough. The reason I ask, though, is to get a sense of how aggressively you need to diet.

Next one is...do you have someone doing your diet? I don't want to give you a bunch of ideas and go against what your coach is doing with you. There are always different ways to skin the cat so to speak...lol

Cycle is var right??

The hungry part! Good question!! I would say, initially it may feel that way because of the changes in diet but...at 20 weeks out, give or take, you should still have enough calories that you aren't losing sleep from hunger. It's better to start higher in calories and leave yourself room to move. I would save some of my daily calories to eat closer to bed time but that's my own personal preference because I can't sleep if I'm hungry either.

Sorry for all the questions!!
 
Hmm... Does fitday go off your lean body mass or just your weight? Keep in mind these calculations are based on the average woman and chances are you have more muscle than that.

If you're super hungry, legitimately hungry, add food to your plan.

Don't just freestyle eat, but planfully amp up your protein portion sizes, for example (real food not drink mix or bars!)

If you've gotta eat a pound of veggies to keep your hunger in check you probably need to tweak something -- feel free to pm me your plan if you want a second set of eyes.

Thanks cutie!

I think fit day goes off my fatty weight :) coz I entered 176 as the starting point. I am probably screwing with my head by keeping track on fit day. I didn't do it while I was "off season" but thought maybe it'd be helpful now.

Cali asked some questions about what I'm eating, so I'm gonna post it below. Thank u soooo much for your reply!!!
 
I'm gonna bombard you with questions!! LOL I was thinking about your post today, though, and thought I'd ask you a few more things.

How many weeks out are you? I'm sitting about 23 weeks, so I'm guessing you're around 19-20 weeks out?

Do you have a target stage weight? in other words...any idea how much you need to lose? I know we often underestimate what we will be for stage weight, although obviously muscle mass related. My first show, I started at 179 and was 135 for stage in 22 weeks but I had next to no muscle mass and still probably wasn't lean enough. The reason I ask, though, is to get a sense of how aggressively you need to diet.

Next one is...do you have someone doing your diet? I don't want to give you a bunch of ideas and go against what your coach is doing with you. There are always different ways to skin the cat so to speak...lol

Cycle is var right??

The hungry part! Good question!! I would say, initially it may feel that way because of the changes in diet but...at 20 weeks out, give or take, you should still have enough calories that you aren't losing sleep from hunger. It's better to start higher in calories and leave yourself room to move. I would save some of my daily calories to eat closer to bed time but that's my own personal preference because I can't sleep if I'm hungry either.

Sorry for all the questions!!

Oh thank u for asking! I need all the help I can get coz I feel clueless sometimes! Lol!

I'm 18-20 weeks out, depending on which show I do.

Since I'll be doing either BB or physique, I was guessing I'd wanna drop from 176 to 155-159. But that's totally a guess. I have no idea if that's too low or too high.

No one is doing my diet. I just made it up on my own after posting on here for some critiques and researching.

And yes, cycle is var.

Here's what I eat:

Meal one:
3 eggs
1/2 c oatmeal, skim milk
1/2 c strawberries
Sugar free maple syrup (bc oatmeal tastes like ASS!!! Lol)
Crystal lite rasp ice

Snack
1/4 c almonds

Lunch
2c romaine lettuce
6oz turkey breast
1tbsp wonton strips
2tbsp fat free poppy seed dressing (there's a teeny amt of sugar in dressing. Been considering switching to balsalmic vin)
Green tea

Pre WO
2 scoops myofusion
rice cake w/ 1 tbsp peanut butter

Post WO
2 scoops myofusion

Dinner (varies)
Chicken
Brown rice
Broccoli
Low sodium soy sauce

Night snack
3 hard boiled eggs, whites only

Then there's all my supplements. I've become a supplement whore. Lol :) I read an article about one and think "oh I should probably add that. " haha! So with breakfast, I take:

Bcaa
Fish oil
Vitamin e 400 iu
Multivitamin
Caffeine 250mg
5ish mg var (I'm splitting a 25mg var tab in quarters, so it's probably more like 6ish).

Then with lunch:
Fish oil

Pre WO:
Bcaa
Glutamine
Caffeine
5ish mg var

Post WO:
Bcaa
Glutamine

That's it, I think. :) one side note: the diet listed above is pretty much what I've been eating pre-prep too. But there are subtle differences. Pre-prep, all my shakes were made with skim milk. I also would drink a glass of skim milk at dinner. The idea was finding an easy-- and palatable-- way of increasing calories and protein. Now all i drink is water (and the exceptions listed above). And if I wanted a cookie or a handful of Fritos, I'd eat them. :) and if I was hungry, I'd eat a bagel or some other carb source with peanut butter or I'd eat a bowl of kashi cereal. Now, I don't eat carbs after 9:00 pm and I've eliminated milk (except in my oatmeal) and no cookies or Fritos. Boo!!! Lol!

Btw-- I slept fine last night. Woke up a few times but think that's coz I was just hot and needed to throw off a few covers. Headache is still kinda there. I did take some Nuprin last night and that helped. So maybe I am dehydrated. Good lord, I feel like I'm already peeing rivers!!! I guess it's not enough until you're peeing oceans!!! Hahaha!!!

Thanks for all the responses!!! I don't know what I'd do without all the feedback!!!
 
Still having headaches. Sleeping ok. I wake up more than I normally do but I'm able to fall back to sleep. But I've made it through another day. :)
 
I think your diet looks pretty good. :) If you are still finding yourself hungry, you could probably increase calories a little bit, even for a couple of weeks. See how you feel and how your body is feeling in the gym. The other option is to include some type of structured refeed, especially if you start to plateau. You don't want to drop calories too quickly in the process or it can bite you in those final weeks.

Another thought...just to keep in mind as you go....for the first show, it's often quite eye opening to realize how low you have to go weight wise for stage condition, especially for bb or physique. Obviously, it depends on how much muscle mass you have but I'd say that is a very common experience for the first time competitors (especially if you have to really drop any type of weight in the double digits). I'd take your target and add on 10 lbs just to be safe. Again, all individual but something to keep in mind as you go. :)
 
I think your diet looks pretty good. :) If you are still finding yourself hungry, you could probably increase calories a little bit, even for a couple of weeks. See how you feel and how your body is feeling in the gym. The other option is to include some type of structured refeed, especially if you start to plateau. You don't want to drop calories too quickly in the process or it can bite you in those final weeks.

Another thought...just to keep in mind as you go....for the first show, it's often quite eye opening to realize how low you have to go weight wise for stage condition, especially for bb or physique. Obviously, it depends on how much muscle mass you have but I'd say that is a very common experience for the first time competitors (especially if you have to really drop any type of weight in the double digits). I'd take your target and add on 10 lbs just to be safe. Again, all individual but something to keep in mind as you go. :)

Thanks Cali. I'm rewarding my first week's efforts with a controversial cheat meal on Sunday. I want-- and will have :) -- a grilled turkey and cheese sandwich and an ice cream cone from dairy queen. I. Cannot. Wait. Lol.

What's "normal" to feel while dieting? I still have a headache and after cardio today, I felt like a beat dog. Even after a protein shake post cardio, I was tired. I go back to the gym this afternoon to do arms. Hopefully I will get something out of it.
 
FC do yourself a favor and get your BP checked just for peace of mind.

Thank you :)
 
Is the caffeine new? Sometimes too much caffeine gives me bad headaches...I'm just brainstorming here but usually the answer lies in the diet. Dammit! lol
 
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