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Critique my diet please - Help!

This is where I am having a problem with a calorie is a calorie is a calorie. I got to 200+# on 800 calories from Pepsi and 800 calories from steak and potatoes a day, basically all liquid one meal.
Cleaned up the diet, got rid of the sugar, increased the activity and dropped 60# of fat, 6 meals a day 2000+ calories.
 
ladies ladies...trust me im the HUGEST fan of low carb diets and avoiding *crappy carbs* to control insulin..thats the diet i do all the time every spring to get cut and for shows, gladiola said:

"""""My stats: 140 lbs, 5'4", BF - getting outta control. Goal: it was to gain LBM, but now that my BF is outta control, gotta get that down & preserve LBM. Currently lifting 5:30 PM 4X per week, plus 1 muscular endurance w/o 1X per week & cardio - um, yeah, what's that???! 2X per week at best - gotta up that. """"""


Based on what she is doing is why i gave my recommendation¡K..increasing cardio is actually MY PREFERD method, but from her current cardio regimen, not knowing if she will actually increase the amount of times she does cardio and her diet, she needs to cut cals. And I know u disagree but it is a FACT ¡V if you burn more cals than you take in you lose weight ¡V theres no getting around that.. I used the extreme example of eating nothing but crap to show my point..that burn more than u take in, you lose weight¡Kbut also notice I do not allow her to drop her protein¡Kshit eat 10 snickers and 150gms of protein, she wont lose muscle and she WILL lose fat if like I said, at the end of the day more cals were burned than taken in, that¡¦s a fact.

Personally I do more cardio and eat more cause I cant cut cals too low ill go nuts¡Kid rather do the extra cardio and eat¡Kbut once again that¡¦s something else than can be argued, you may think cutting cals so low is bad and *starving* or cause muscle loss..well what the hell u think cardio is? Heres 2 examples:

1900 cals, - aprrox. 4-500 cals from cardio/exercise = weight loss from MORE CALS BURNT THAN TAKEN IN

or

1900 cals minues 4-500 from reducing cals, plus NO CARDIO = weight loss from MORE CALS BURNT THAN TAKEN IN


this isn¡¦t something that can be argued ¡Kthe overall cals taken in after either accounting for calorie burn from cardio or calorie reduction is 1400-1500 cals, thus 2800-3500 calorie DEFICIT a weak, = fat loss. It does NOT matter where how u make the defict A) cardio or B) cut cals. But like I said from her CURRENT diet and cardio regime but recommendation was to cut cals.. IF she increase cardio from 2 days a week to 5-7 days a week then she wont have to cut calories¡K.just yet ƒº cause she will eventually¡Kso do more cardio or cut cals never mind WHY u prefer one over the other¡K..the result IS THE SAME.
 
Temple01 said:
This is where I am having a problem with a calorie is a calorie is a calorie. I got to 200+# on 800 calories from Pepsi and 800 calories from steak and potatoes a day, basically all liquid one meal.
Cleaned up the diet, got rid of the sugar, increased the activity and dropped 60# of fat, 6 meals a day 2000+ calories.


key phrase INCREASED THE ACTIVITY.... and you were most likely in starvation mode...icreasing cals in the long run raised your metabolism and thus fat burning ability....so you are thinking ..."wow i added 1200 cals and i am losing weight, so a cal is not a cal" .........well yes, it is.


and i should make it more clear....im saying, more than a cal is a cal is a cal.. its all about HOW MANY CALS YOU BURN vs TAKE IN AT THE END OF THE DAY that ULTIMATELY determines fat loss. so at the end of the day its ONLY CALORIES (burnt vs taken in ) that matter.


look you can eat 2000 cals from sugar or 2000 cals from fat and/or protein and ONLY in that case you will lose more WEIGHT in the protein/fat group but that is because of WATER loss and the *inherit metabolic advantage of ketosis* yes its true you can eat more ( protein and fat) while in ketosis and lose weight than if you ate the same cals from carbs and not being in ketosis..... thats the ONLY exception and to be honest i dont think it can really be considered an exception because the extra weight loss may be (most likely) water/glycogen.
 
:rolleyes:
The point of the thread wasn't, "How many cals should I eat?" The point of the thread was "WHAT should I be eating?"

Anyone else have input? Please.
 
are you saying that insulin response is irrelevant then????

Spats - when you rotate carbs do are your calories reduced on low carb days or do you increase the protein and fat to compensate for the lack of carbs i.e. same calories every day???
 
Temple01 said:
are you saying that insulin response is irrelevant then????


no, not necessarily but its way overated, most of america who is fat and who happens to eat tons of simple sugars..are also LAZY SOB's and dont get off their asses...so i dont like how this insulin response is so well used as an excuse for FATNESS. but yes the insulin respones can hamper your fat loss abilities, but overall its still cals taken in vs cals burnt that determine weight/fat loss.
 
Don't give me this shit about "no full time job" if you've got a two year old you are working more than a full time job.
 
Morning Spatts!

I suppose I've gotten answers, yes, thanks. I am going to reduce the calories a little, but I already KNOW for certain from experience that I don't need to take them low to lose. Otherwise I already got some soy milk & am giving up the yogurt as well.

I mostly just need a plan I can stick to & I hope having it in black & white will be helpful - nothing to think about!

Thanks again :)
 
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