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Critique my diet please - Help!
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NY Muscle said:
Just want to add something here. In my experience, most women HAVE to be more strict with the types of foods they eat in order to get and stay lean. Men seem to be able to get away with more than women (evil estrogen at work I'm sure). So I agree with Spatts on the cutting out of the lactose type products. Also, it may just be me, but I'd MUCH rather be stricter with the types of foods I eat RATHER than cutting calories. Cutting calories makes me grouchy cause I feel like I'm constantly hungry or starving which is much worse, IMO, than just not eating certain foods but keeping the calories right around maintenance. I was able to go from 22% body fat to 17% JUST by cleaning up my diet and eating strict. Of course now I've hit a plateau and just recently knocked down my calories a bit and started taking a fat burner to try and break thru the plateau. I'll know at the beginning of April when I get my body fat checked again if it's working or not.
NY Muscle
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Cheetarah said:
Just want to add something here. In my experience, most women HAVE to be more strict with the types of foods they eat in order to get and stay lean. Men seem to be able to get away with more than women (evil estrogen at work I'm sure). So I agree with Spatts on the cutting out of the lactose type products. Also, it may just be me, but I'd MUCH rather be stricter with the types of foods I eat RATHER than cutting calories. Cutting calories makes me grouchy cause I feel like I'm constantly hungry or starving which is much worse, IMO, than just not eating certain foods but keeping the calories right around maintenance. I was able to go from 22% body fat to 17% JUST by cleaning up my diet and eating strict. Of course now I've hit a plateau and just recently knocked down my calories a bit and started taking a fat burner to try and break thru the plateau. I'll know at the beginning of April when I get my body fat checked again if it's working or not.
a calorie is a calorie is a calorie..sure there are complex carbs and high gi simple sugars but right now she is eating too many cals to lose weight, IMO...after cutting cals and losing some weight and she wants to refine the diet even further, then she can cut out all the "crap" and continue to lose weight.
NY Muscle
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spatterson said:If that's true, I'm going to switch to two Snickers and a diet Dr. Pepper. That way I'll get the same number of cals, and I won't have any cravings.
Seriously, NY, I DO see what you're point is, despite my sarcasm. Tell me this, how many cals is Galdiola burning in a day?
like i said its all about CALORIES you burn more than you consume you LOSE weight thats a fact, with no exceptions.
sure go ahead eat 10 snickers, figure out your BMR if possible, eat 20% than your maintenance calories snickers, peanut butter cups, who cares, you WILL lose weight.
NY Muscle
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spatterson said:
thats actually totally irrelevant..reason why? if she is eating 1900cals a day as seh said...take 400-500 cals away from that and she will lose weight...this is all kids stuff, nothing complicated.
and if yoeu bring up "well if the food doesnt give me cravings then its a bettr food than say a snickers" well thats irrelavant...will power is YOUR option, and has nothing to do with simple metabolics.
NY Muscle
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Temple01 said:
yes but if u notice we arent talking abuot protein, we are talking abuot *nasty carbs* and lactose etc.
right now in gladiolas particilar diet if she cuts calores and only calories she will lose weight(fat).. also notice i recommended more protein and less carbs. but the other ladies are talking about nasty sugars, and confusing "cravings" with "fat gain", cravings is a will power thing nothing more..i mean it can be triggered by the carbs and it usually is...but a craving doesnt make you gain fat, lack of will power and giving into the craving does.
NY Muscle said:
Sorry, gotta disagree here. No, it's NOT all about calories, that is EXACTLY why there are so many people out there who have cut their calories and STILL cannot lose weight. It's all about INSULIN CONTROL. The body CANNOT and WILL NOT burn fat in the presence of huge amounts of insulin which is why we must carefully choose the best foods to eat while dieting. Sure, at first you CAN lose weight JUST by cutting calories but you will quickly plateau unless you control your insulin levels. Eating improper foods will not allow your body to burn the fat at an optimum rate. Day after day I get customers in my store who say they can't lose the fat despite their caloric deficit, which many times is way too low in the first place because they did not know the proper foods to eat and just kept dropping their calories. That of course is what ultimately left them with slowed metabolisms and the body's resistance to burning fat. So I immediately ask them what they are eating and bingo, I find the problem, they're eating the wrong foods and at the wrong times. Then, just like I lost a lot of fat just by eating the right foods and not even touching my calories, which, by the way, allowed me to gain muscle at the same time, cutting calories WON'T do that for you, those people I advised had success as well. And ultimately, if you can gain or at least maintain your muscle mass while cuttiing, then all the better cause more muscle = faster metabolism = more calories burned. So why reduce your calories before you have to? Reduction in calories = lost muscle mass = slowed metabolism, not to mention like I said before, irritibility in general. Why not just eat the RIGHT foods and keep gaining muscle WHILE losing the fat, INSTEAD of reducing your calories before you have to. So I STILL say, when first starting out trying to lose fat, FIRST, slowly CLEAN UP your diet and go as far as you can go that way, THEN worry about cutting calories. That way, you are able to GAIN muscle mass or at least keep it, to keep your metabolism up thus enabling you to burn fat faster.
Read the book: SUGAR BUSTERS - Cut Sugar to Trim Fat. It explains this concept very well. Cutting calories is old school.
Gladiola
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Great post - I agree 110%!!!!Cheetarah said:
I have been carefully monitoring my caloric intake (uh, OK *most* days...) for about 1.5 years now & over & over again, consistently - I would gain or maintain on 1,600 - 1,800 IF that included 200-400 or more cal worth of sugar. Increase to 2,000 & have NO sweets at all & I would lose!!!! HIGHER CALS & I'll lose if there is absolutely no sweets. Again & again my body has proven this to me - I have no doubt of this.
So many times ppl (especially me) have posted questions, "how many cals to eat? How many carbs? what carb rotation????" and often it comes down to an individual thing. One thing I am absolutey certain of is that, for me, 200 cal of chocolate or cookies is equal to 400 cal protein or even healthy carbs as far as weight gain is concerned. [Now if only I didn't love it so darn much
]I agree w/ Spatts, I'd rather work out harder in the gym than starve myself... also probably the better bet for prevention of catabolism.
That's funny this was brought up on this thread - b/c I was going to start a thread on that anyway!!!! How 3,500 cal = 1 lb. Does that apply for ANYONE??? Where in the world did that even come from?
