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Ceebs' Neurogenex diary.

Please do - the more I take it, the more I like it. I hope it's the same for you. :)

I'm taking it stacked with Thermorexin presently (which has nootropics in it as well), and my cognitive abiities compared to a few months ago are - for lack of a better word - wow. Memory is awesome, sense of humor has never been better, my ability to learn and retain information is up, mood is elevated, concentration is greatly improved... I should have hopped on the smart drug wagon a long time ago.
 
Ceebs do you think that it would be wise to go ahead and add the thermo now?? or should I start with just the nero and see how that goes??? dont have any thing real important coming up at the moment....thanks for your time and your posts!!!!
 
PBR said:
Ceebs do you think that it would be wise to go ahead and add the thermo now?? or should I start with just the nero and see how that goes???

What are your goals? Are you cutting?

I would see how the Neurogenex affects you first, since caffiene (and possibly the other stimulatory compounds in Thermorexin as well) seems to potentiate the effects of smart drugs, and vice versa. I take two Thermorexin upon waking with a Neurogenex, then one of each again about an hour after lunch, and that's enough to keep me bright-eyed and bushy-tailed all day.

Start sloooow - see my post about double-dosing earlier in the thread when I wasn't accustomed to nootropics. :insane:
 
Ceebs said:



There's a phenomenon called paradoxical pharmacology where stimulants elicit a depressant effect...

Until 2002 this was the only method for treating ADHD. All of the meds were stimulants, like Strattera which I take. And there are other examples too. Some people, my mother for example, will be up all night with insomnia and hyperactivity with they take a dyphemhydromine will is the most common OTC sleep aid.


I couldnt agree with with the start slow advice. Proceed with bigtime caution until you determine how all this stuff is going to effect you.
 
anya said:


Until 2002 this was the only method for treating ADHD. All of the meds were stimulants, like Strattera which I take. And there are other examples too. Some people, my mother for example, will be up all night with insomnia and hyperactivity with they take a dyphemhydromine will is the most common OTC sleep aid.


I couldnt agree with with the start slow advice. Proceed with bigtime caution until you determine how all this stuff is going to effect you.
thanks ANYA...you know whats weird...if I take any OTC aid for sleep, Iam wasted the next day...really bad...moody too...then to counter that FOGGY state of mind, I have to use a thermo of some sort to get back to normal, then I have to deal with the crash...SO...I dont go there at all....now its a benedryl with ibouprofin....sleep well, no sides at all....do you know of anything healthy for sleep????
 
Ceebs - those visual disturbances you and/or MS mentioned a while ago .... what sort of thing was happening?

I wear glasses most of the time - I've had some allergy problems with contacts lately, so have had to quit them - but I'm having this thing whereby I'm seeing double - well, sort of double - like one eye isn't keeping up with the other kind of feeling. It's weird - it seems like there's only one particular angle I can see properly out of my glasses with ... Now I know you're probably thinking, well, doh! go get the glasses checked, but there's other stuff involved. I'm very very stressed at the moment with finals coming up in 2 weeks and never-ending tests still going on, so I also haven't been getting much sleep. The visual thing was absolutely the worst last Friday when I got about 4 hrs sleep. I was convinced I needed new glasses, until Sunday, when I had had a chance to sleep for 12 hours - no seeing double all of Sunday - but it's back today :( 5 hours sleep.

And I'm opposite to you in ever thing else - highly emotional, grumpy, concentration off, ability to memorise stuff was always good, and no better or worse now, but calculations, if anything, seem to be getting harder.

Trying to read fractions of ml off a burette in chem prac exam today was a nightmare - eventually just closed one eye and hoped it wouldn't skew anything :(

PBR - I've heard of people using GHB for sleep, or even 5-HTP I think. I find reading a reeeeeaaaallly boring book works wonders though :) Or milk & cookies, heh heh.
 
Steele....thanks...I have to admit I used GHB alot a few years ago...unfortunately-I like it....however, the most sleep I could attain was about 4-5 hours ....very cool stuff...very bad for you and extremely addictive....cannot get it anymore....maybe thats a good thing....perhaps I will try the 5 HTP.... some girl at the health food store gave me coral calcium....I was racing on it!!! tossed and turned all night.....????
 
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