Ceebs' Neurogenex diary.

[macrophage69alpha]

some girl at the health food store gave me coral calcium....I was racing on it!!! tossed and turned all night.....????

placebo, or contaminated or magnesium depletion/interference (see below).

there is no difference between calcium and coral calcium...

though magnesium will help with sleep (since calcium affect magnesium this may have been an issue

 

[SteelWeaver]

Yeah, PBR - I hear you on the addiction thing - I've had my own issues with that - thank god I'm now only addicted to training and studying I've never tried GHB myself, actually - just heard folks around the boards talking about it. I wouldn't normally recommend mind-altering substances I take homemade ZMA every night - magnesium, zinc and B6, and I read physics and chemistry textbooks right before bed - puts me out like a light!

Macro - I'm pretty much on maintenance right now - waiting to finish exams before I do some much-needed cutting. I'm vegetarian, eat approximately 40/40/20 P:C:F, sometimes higher fat, lower carb, proteins mainly from egg whites, powders and cottage cheese. Fat is somewhere between 40 and maybe 80 grams a day - depends on if I decide to snack on cashews or not, but I'd say it's generally higher rather than lower, but there isn't much incidental fat in what I eat, so what I get is eaten on purpose, and mostly unsaturated. From walnuts, peanut butter, some in low-fat c.ch, flax seeds, very occasionally cheese ... that's about it.

Something else - the vision thing seems to be at its worst when I'm most stressed - dunno if that means anything. Didn't have any problems today, but yesterday was horrible.

What's the fat connection?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

What's the fat connection?

choline

 

[PBR]

Ceebs!!! ok, Ive been on Neurogenex for about 3 wks...I have not been able to use more than 1 capsule per day...It makes me quiet and mean!! Ive spread out doses, doesnt work...this is what Iam doing: 2 tabs of SAM-E @ 400mgs and 1 Neuro in AM. 1 SAM-E @ 200mgs in AFTERNOON...this makes me feel good...SAM-E has changed my life for the better....Neuro is awesome at 1 cap...Iam articulate, talkative, memory works well and mood is great...feel sharp and able to maintain alertness at work for long periods of time....trouble is- cant increase dosage...maybe thats good and alot cheaper!! any thoughts on this??

 

[Ceebs]

Sam-e raises dopamine. Some of the ingredients in Neurogenex also raise dopamine. Maybe you're having dopamine overload, ergo you get dopamean.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

I'm thinking good and a lot cheaper.

I really need to reorder...

 

[PBR]

I will definitely re-up...forgot to mention, that 2 caps sometimes nearly makes me unable to speak correctly...thought process goes way too fast and my speech is unable to keep up...very weird and took me by surprise...I also became very agressive, with everything, and it was not agro like being on juice- more like I wasnt afraid of anything -to a point I was overly confident with everything...that in itself made me quiet, as I was afraid to open my mouth and say anything at all...just pointing out some different reactions to this stuff...the product works well...maybe I will try 2 caps at one time in the AM to see what happens...on a non-work day!!! funny response BTW Ceebs....

 

[Ceebs]

Another update...

I was up to 3-4 pills a day before I ran out a few weeks ago, and went off cold turkey with no crash - I just felt like I had less dopamine, if one can quanitify that. My order of more came today, and once again, the cognitive effect is immediate and significant. I've had all sorts of ideas this evening - business ideas, nice little things I can do for people, jewelry design ideas (I made the necklace I'm wearing here), et cetera.

Also, nootropic effects aside, it became unparalleled to me as an antidepressant the longer I took it. I was a big fan of Sam-e and 5-hydroxy-tryptophan before, but Neurogenex blows it away. Very unexpected benefit. I probably have neurotransmitter imbalance issues (either genetically or from years of taking ephedrine off and on, as previously mentioned in this thread) which Neurogenex is correcting. The optimism is almost overwhelming.

How are you doing, PBR?

 

[PBR]

Hey Ceebs...been working my ass off....still only using 1 cap a day of neuro...and 400mgs of sam...I too have taken ephedrine for years...what a change to have all that out of my system...Iam having the same results as you are, with the anti-depressant action of neuro....its great...I did not realize how screwed up I was from ephedrine, been off now for over 6 months.... I really want to try to up my dosage to 2 caps a day of neuro-maybe over holidays-work has been crazy...Iam very happy with this product and will continue to use it....I like your necklace Ceebs-pm me if you retail...I like your work...

 

[Ceebs]

I don't retail - yet - but if there's something you want me to custom make for the lady in your life, I'd do it for the cost of materials. I also have a few made that I've never worn, just wanted to create them for the joy of creation, which I'd part with.

 

[Mr Ron Coleman]

I took one capsule at 7:50pm this evening, and had the most wretched burp of the contents about ten minutes later. (Valerian root burps are worse, but only slightly.) As I'm typing this post, the words seem to be coming to me easier, and I seem to want to use more parrenetical comments. It's also a good half hour past when I'd normally have dinner, and food doesn't interest me much. What would be supressing my appetite? I don't think there's enough Tyrosine in it to do this... or is it that my brain sees no need for me to get glucose for fuel when the nootropic compounds are nourishing it enough at the moment? Hm.

I'm thinking the long term effectiveness of a supp like this would wear off very fast..very.