Best diet for a hard gainer...help!

[Corsaire]

First off, some stats on me: I'm mostly the ectomorph type, hard gainer at 177 lbs., slim frame, I've been working out, correctly, since June this year. Apart form the free-weight training with emphasis on low reps (6 to 8 reps) and heavy weights, pyramids and the like; my concern here is my diet (keep in mind that I'm positively not overtraining, instead giving my body enough rest in between to give my sore muscles time to recuperate), I don't seem to be doing much gains is spite of the fact that I'm trying to eat right, day in, day out. I might not be putting in enough calories for my body weight, here's where I need your help and advice from you experts out there:

In the morning:

A loaded turkey sandwich with white american cheese, with peanut butter on it. A milkshake which contains: Endurox (performance recovery drink) with 14 grs. (1 scoop) of protein plus 8 scoops (20 grs. of protein per scoop) of Simply Protein (Complete Whey) by EAS. This milkshake alone covers my protein needs per body weight.
A yogurt and a cup of coffee.
By noon: a can of tuna fish or sardines in water, about 18 to 21 grs. of protein.
By 1:00 pm Lunch: half can of black beans, plus some rice, plus sardines or tuna fish can.
Another yogurt later on.
By 5:15 pm: work out at the local gym
by 7: 30pm or 8 pm dinner: salad with pieces of turkey in it, beans, chicken and maybe more tuna.
Plus, vitamins supplements: gingseng, bee pollen, vitamin e,multivitamin, omega 3 gels, magnesium and zinc.
Do you think I still need one of those meal replacements????

Any feedback, will be most appreciated folks,
Corsaire
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[diamonddiceclay]

at your weight, here is what would be best:eat over 325 g protein a day and 100-175g carbs this will help you bulk-YOU MUST EAT MORE RED MEAT

 

[sysopt]

I disagree. No one that weighs 177 lbs. should be eating that much protein. You'll either convert into carbs or just shit most of it out. A good start is take your bodyweight x 18 = ~3200. Try that for a little while, if you still don't see results, up it by 500. Most of your diet should be carbs. I'm so god damn sick of this protein protein protein bullshit. Yes, people weightlifting need more than the average person, but I'm very sorry not that much. You need both. Good luck. Just trying to help out a fellow hardgainer.

 

[JustinM]

yead id like to say im am the biggest hard gainer ever..i weight 140...i am eating 265g of protein per day and about 400g of carbs about...3000 cal, but trying to get it up to 3500

peace

 

[silkysaul]

eat over 325 g protein a day

At that rate.. your kidneys will be destroyed in NO TIME!

 

[joe d]

At that rate.. your kidneys will be destroyed in NO TIME!

lol this thread is almost 10 years old. any way why do you say this? it is a verry low amount of protein for a bb'er. the guy that made this reply didnt know what he was talking about. that guy really needed 400+ protein and 1000+ cals being that he was a hard gainer.

 

[mike.gentles]

Get more fats in your diet! Good, bad, WHATEVER! And play around with the amount of carbs your taking in.

 

[roguemonkeyjr]

LOL at this old post