Whey Isolate vs. Chicken

[CO B-man]

for years I did the post workout Whey shake
Ive recently over the past year done the post workout whole food meal(chicken, rice, corn, bread, etc,)
HUGE difference.
whole food isthe wya to go. just make sure to chew well...

You could blend it and make a shake out of it too if you want! LOL!

 

[devcon]

IF, Chicken - Real > Whey - processed

THEN, Chicken - 100 > Whey - 0

Enjoy & eat your food, don't drink a fake shake!

 

[Twoguns]

I was laying in bed last night and I had a thought about Whey Isolate and Chicken..

In about 100g of skinless chicken, there is 22g of protein and 116 calories..

My question is, why do some people eat chicken so religiously while they are bulking? It would take an enormous amount of chicken to be calorically significant, and if doing it for the protein -- it's easily covered by drinkin 2-3 well sized protein drinks.. You would need pounds and pounds of chicken per day in order to reach the same amount of protein you'd get from some simple whey drinks..

To me, it just seems that I'd rather waste the space in my stomach with something more calorically dense (this is for a bulker, obviously) and just get my protein from a supplement.. I wouldnt want to have to eat a pound of chicken in one sitting just to get 400 calories..

Anyway, just wondering what you guys do and what your thoughts are.

As people have already said, the food will "sit" longer and digest slower allowing your body to uptake the protein. Of course we should bang down the protein post workout for the quick uptake, but I always eat a whole meal one hour after the post workout shake. In addition, have you ever heard of the Thermic effect of food. Your body requires more energy to digest the whole food, especially since some of the enzymes in the whey make the stuff "predigested" it is easier for your body to uptake the nutrient. The thermic effect is useful when cutting because of the temperature raising properties. Bottom line = more caloric expediture with whole food.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermic_effect_of_food

 

[gjohnson5]

IF, Chicken - Real > Whey - processed

THEN, Chicken - 100 > Whey - 0

Enjoy & eat your food, don't drink a fake shake!

I will agree to a certain extent with this. You have to know the % of protein in that tub of whey before making the comparison. There are alot of scams out there especially with the whey protein concentrate products. I only use 100% Isolate products because of this.

 

[javaguru]

I always think it's interesting that people don't consider my milk isolate "real food." Skim milk is "real food" but apparently when the lactose is removed and it's spray dried it suddenly becomes "not real food?" Milk Isolate maintains most of the mineral content of the original milk and the casomorphins make it slow digesting. I think whey protein is extremely over rated as a general use protein, I use it exclusively around my workouts. On a final note, BV is an outdated way of measuring protein quality, it's based on the nutritional needs of rats. The current standard is the PCDAAS which is based on digestability and and the EAA's based on human requirements. Eggs and dairy score a perfect 1.0 while meat is between .8-.95 with beef receiving the highest score. I probably get no more than 50g-60g of protein from meat and around 200g-250g based on shakes and probably another 18g-24g from eggs.