Whey Isolate vs. Chicken

[Jabs]

I used to do 50% real food and 50% shakes and had decent gains but a few years ago I dropped the shakes out of my diet almost completely and I'm having a lot better gains. I think shakes can help enhance the diet and they are easy but they just don't compare to real food. When I get lazy I or don't have time I will drink one but other than that not to often.

 

[CO B-man]

I used to do 50% real food and 50% shakes and had decent gains but a few years ago I dropped the shakes out of my diet almost completely and I'm having a lot better gains. I think shakes can help enhance the diet and they are easy but they just don't compare to real food. When I get lazy I or don't have time I will drink one but other than that not to often.

Without some kind of protien supplement/shake it is hard to get to 1.5 grams per body weight. besides who can turn down meat! chickens their eggs, cows, pigs, fish I love em all! Especially the steaks!

 

[Silent Method]

Big fan of eating real foods, but I'm also a big fan of whey. Really, whey is a real food. It's not synthetic and, although it was often widely and notoriously a waste product in modern food processing, it is a classic dairy food that has been used in many form for centuries.

Our modern isolates, hydroslates, etc., are nothing to be ashamed of as foods. As a food that's going to pump nitrogen into your body, whey kicks meats ass!

 

[forcedoutage]

I think a good whey shake is important post workout. And I always have one.

I eat 6 meals a day and about 400 grams of protein. Usually 2 chicken meals, 1 fish meal, and one pork meal, and 2 protien shakes.

I will add one red meat meal a week in place of the pork meal.

Your body can only digest/process "x" amount of Protein at a time. If your food is digested slowly, you will digest more of it and if it is digested quickly, you will digest less of it once you hit you "x" amount. It is a different amount for everyone.

You will piss out a whole lot of protein if you are eating 60 plus grams of fast digesting protein per meal. We get Urine screeing and physicals at work quarterly, and when I am supplementing heavy with Fast acting (Whey) Protein I always have an extremly high protein level in my urine.

So I think when you get to the point where you are having to eat extremely high amoutns of protein per meal, whole foods will do best for you. But I just can't fix 6 meals, so I will likely always have 1-2 shakes a day lol

 

[CO B-man]

Big fan of eating real foods, but I'm also a big fan of whey. Really, whey is a real food. It's not synthetic and, although it was often widely and notoriously a waste product in modern food processing, it is a classic dairy food that has been used in many form for centuries.

Our modern isolates, hydroslates, etc., are nothing to be ashamed of as foods. As a food that's going to pump nitrogen into your body, whey kicks meats ass!

Whey definately has the highest biological value of all forms of protien, then eggs then beef then chicken I do not know where fish is in thie mix but it is a good form
Whey is like the curdle in milk just before it becomes cheese.

Little miss muffet sat on her tuffet eating her curds (Cheese curds) and whey. Real Mozzarella cheese is sold with it etc.

 

[gjohnson5]

Whey is like the curdle in milk just before it becomes cheese.

Little miss muffet sat on her tuffet eating her curds (Cheese curds) and whey. Real Mozzarella cheese is sold with it etc.

LOL

 

[CO B-man]

LOL

She had big muscles too.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

food over supps any day all day

 

[Silent Method]

I think a good whey shake is important post workout. And I always have one.

I eat 6 meals a day and about 400 grams of protein. Usually 2 chicken meals, 1 fish meal, and one pork meal, and 2 protien shakes.

I will add one red meat meal a week in place of the pork meal.

Your body can only digest/process "x" amount of Protein at a time. If your food is digested slowly, you will digest more of it and if it is digested quickly, you will digest less of it once you hit you "x" amount. It is a different amount for everyone.

You will piss out a whole lot of protein if you are eating 60 plus grams of fast digesting protein per meal. We get Urine screeing and physicals at work quarterly, and when I am supplementing heavy with Fast acting (Whey) Protein I always have an extremly high protein level in my urine.

So I think when you get to the point where you are having to eat extremely high amoutns of protein per meal, whole foods will do best for you. But I just can't fix 6 meals, so I will likely always have 1-2 shakes a day lol

You just hit the protein or do you have carbs with the shake? Some high gi carbs and high bv protein (read "whey") in a 4:1 ratio make an awesome post-exercise tool.

Regarding the amount of protein one can digest at one sitting, the amount goes up as bv goes up, and even at the top of the bv chart, form has a big impact. You can absorb buckets of whey hydroslate assuming in one sitting. Still, there is a limit to nitrogen retention.

 

[get456]

Whole food is always better than a protein shake..

I see people say/post that all the time...

Does anyone actually know why? Can someone post scientific evidence that proves that is the case? Or some source that specifically documents why that is?

I would be very interested as I question whether our bodies know the difference...