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Training for Power and Speed
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Lord_Suston
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to mekkanik and coolcolJ, what both of you are talking about is explosive strength. I am not going to disagree that olympic lifts help on explosive strength of jump or off the starting blocks in the beginning of a sprint.
I am talking about sheer speed as in fighting, or sprinting, weighlifting can be used to strengthen the muscles that are needed in recruitment. but if what you guys are saying is true no boxer should train by punching they should do olympic lifts. See the problem there, I am talking about sport related skills. To be fast in a certain sport, you need to train to be fast in that sport.
Example: when all I did was olympic lifts and powerlift I tryed to box an old friend of mine. I was an explosive fighter, I mean at 5'7.5 weighing 190 I could clean and jerk 205 for sets of 6 no problem, but when it came down to are match he beat the ever living shit out of me because I could punch fast enough, I lost the proficiency by not training for it.
I am talking about sheer speed as in fighting, or sprinting, weighlifting can be used to strengthen the muscles that are needed in recruitment. but if what you guys are saying is true no boxer should train by punching they should do olympic lifts. See the problem there, I am talking about sport related skills. To be fast in a certain sport, you need to train to be fast in that sport.
Example: when all I did was olympic lifts and powerlift I tryed to box an old friend of mine. I was an explosive fighter, I mean at 5'7.5 weighing 190 I could clean and jerk 205 for sets of 6 no problem, but when it came down to are match he beat the ever living shit out of me because I could punch fast enough, I lost the proficiency by not training for it.
coolcolj
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Yes you are correct, but remeber that there is carry over to different movements if the speed of movement and energy systems used are the same. The CNS is a global body thing and is not specific to each different movement as was once thought.
Hell I even explode off of the toilet seat now
like I said even my shooting - a finese thing, improved a lot without any practise. Someone else said the same thing on Dr Squat's forum when he did started training on Olympic Lifts.
Not only that my first step speed, dribbling and stealing ability improved dramaticly.
Off course if you practise your chosen moevemnt as well, you get a even better overall improvement. But never discount proper weight training - the guys I play against can't hang with me now, and they play every week!
Hell I even explode off of the toilet seat now
like I said even my shooting - a finese thing, improved a lot without any practise. Someone else said the same thing on Dr Squat's forum when he did started training on Olympic Lifts.
Not only that my first step speed, dribbling and stealing ability improved dramaticly.
Off course if you practise your chosen moevemnt as well, you get a even better overall improvement. But never discount proper weight training - the guys I play against can't hang with me now, and they play every week!
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