Too Much Cardio or not enough????

[Madd Hatter]

Disclaimer: The Hatter is a scrawny noob and doesn't know anything compared to most others on the board.

What about the cardio itself? HIIT maybe? I hear a lot of people love doing that, just have to keep it away from leg day.

Myself, I've been doing 30-40mins 3 days a week MOSTLY first thing in the morning, and I go balls out. I figure if I'm gonna be there and do it I may as well make myself think I'm gonna keel over towards the end. I went from 216 to 200 in 8 weeks (less actually, my weight loss has recently stagnated), and that's with pretty much no diet change and still allowing myself a cheat meal. I don't know about any muscle loss because I didn't have much to begin with. Lifts haven't suffered.

 

[satchboogie]

dude..........

SPATTS has got the right plan for you but a few things that i would stress.

1) a.m cardio (preferably with 50mg efedrine in the system)
dont do another cardio session that day. if anything, wait at least 6 hours, then go pump.

2) i STRONGLY, and i repeat........STRONGLY recommend some form of anabolic to spare muscle as the extra cardio and low caloric intake will inevitably burn muscle as well.

i dropped from 11% down to 9% in 3 weeks with a similar plan and only did a.m cardio 3 times a week.

 

[spatts]

satchboogie, one of the reasons I carb rotate is to deal with the two things you just mentioned. I am able to fuel my workouts by having high carb/calorie days rotating with days of lower energy need that are at my BMR before cardio is considered.

Actually, I just started a tight carb rotation 3 weeks ago, and I went from 192 and 19% to 181 and 16% as of two days ago. I have been setting PRs in training all week long, and my speed is up as well. I can't afford to lose muscle, strength, speed, etc for the sake of being lighter, so I really try to encourage people to eat smart, and eat for what you're ABOUT to do....not what you just did (exception being post workout meal). I don't do any cardio yet, and don't use thermogenics, and I'm clean (well, for now ). When my progress starts to slow down, I will slowly work in the cardio and other tricks until I get where I want to be. I'm only 6 pounds away though. I prefer to create a caloric deficit through exercise, as opposed to sub-BMR caloric intake. That's why I keep the low days right around my BMR, and my high days over my BMR by about the same amount I'm going to burn (AMR).

I have used this method to lose and gain in the past, and I have really good luck with it. It just makes sense to me...take in energy to perform work, don't take in energy to NOT perform work. It's like putting gas in your car on an as-needed basis.

Also, try more water, wolfie. I get about 2-3 gallons a day, but I don't really drink a whole lot of other stuff. Water your metabolism, and it will grow.

 

[Wolfie 45]

dude..........

SPATTS has got the right plan for you but a few things that i would stress.

1) a.m cardio (preferably with 50mg efedrine in the system)
dont do another cardio session that day. if anything, wait at least 6 hours, then go pump.

2) i STRONGLY, and i repeat........STRONGLY recommend some form of anabolic to spare muscle as the extra cardio and low caloric intake will inevitably burn muscle as well.

i dropped from 11% down to 9% in 3 weeks with a similar plan and only did a.m cardio 3 times a week.

Its been strongly recommended that i stay away from Ephedrine (I have really bad anxiety/depression)... Same with the Anabolics...But I whole- heartedly agree with Spatts plan looks good, and definately practical..

 

[spatts]

Wolfie, I was going to ask you about hypertension. When you mentioned your EQ expereince...well, let's just say I've heard similar stories, and all of them involved a pre-existing BP issue.

Keep us posted on your progress!

 

[Wolfie 45]

Wolfie, I was going to ask you about hypertension. When you mentioned your EQ expereince...well, let's just say I've heard similar stories, and all of them involved a pre-existing BP issue.

Keep us posted on your progress!

Actually, my blood pressure had been very low. 108/70. My doctor would usually comment that my blood pressure was great and my at reast heart-rate was around 58-62. The reason i know is because I was using i went to the hospital on a monday for an injury i sustained when at Pro-Wrestling school. they took my pressure and heart rate. When i returned on Thursday, they didnt even tell me my blood pressure, but my heart rate was 146!! When i had the injury, they gave me a "non-narcotic" pain-killer shot, i always wondered if that may have had something to do with it. Wish i Knew what the shot was....Anyways, did some grocery shopping and gonna try a diff approach to the diet, and obviously cut back on the amount of times on the treadmill.. Thanks

 

[spatts]

Well, beating people with folding chairs has been known to do that.

 

[Wolfie 45]

I wish it was a folding chair, it was a new kid who thought he was a hotshot, dropped a knee on the bottom of my rib cage near my obliques... Oh well, we bounce back.
Hooowwl

 

[spatts]

Just when I think my life is interesting...

 

[MikeyG]

Wolfie 45... I just wanted to mention that protien bars are crap IMO. Well, if you do want to consume one, eat one post-workout or something.

1st off, they're expensive, for 1 Nitrotech bar, you can get 6 cans of tuna or 1.5 gallon of skim milk. I would try dropping the protien bars and stick with real food, and if you don't have time-- prepapre them ahead of time.

just my suggestion, i'm sure others would agree or disagree.