That Puke-ing feeling? What causes it?

[IronLion]

1 more thing about the gh release that I just remembered....

I had a strength coach that was convinced that if you woke up three to four hours before you were used to getting up in the am then your gh levels would be at their highest thus providing a great hormonal base for a hypertrophic workout.

So for about two months I would go in and train at 5:00 am on Saturdays and do a very DC like routine, entire body workout, one set per exercise and all exercises to failure....I would be very, very sick by midway through....so I guess high levels of gh would make you sick, if his theory was right

This leads me to my next question, how do people taking high levels of exogenous growth hormone keep their cookies during a workout?

 

[collegiateLifter]

Profound nausea in response to GH release from exercise subsides in high level athletes - unless you take a GH releaser prior to a workout.

I've got a very interesting GH releaser in my freezer. If you want to grab a dose while you are in town you can have a unique experience next leg day.

just because (if indeed it does) nausea correlates with gh release, that doesn't mean one necessarily causes the other.

just some basic statistics to keep in mind.

 

[Zander1983]

Anytime I get sick to mt stomach it is the timing or content of the days meals. Maybe I have been lifting too long to notice the gh thing but I can never remember being sick unless I ate too close to a workout, or too much, or a crappy meal ect.

Yep, I'm exactly the same, as I said above.

 

[Zander1983]

Profound nausea in response to GH release from exercise subsides in high level athletes - unless you take a GH releaser prior to a workout.

I'm not exactly a "high level athlete", but my energy systems are very well trained for indoor soccer. I think I've built up a high lactate tolerance to allow me to maximise my genetically pathetic VO2 max. And I've got decent sports specific endurance...

 

[IronLion]

is vo2 max genetically determined? I thought it was trainable?

 

[Zander1983]

is vo2 max genetically determined? I thought it was trainable?

It is trainable, but not the key thing you want to be training in order to improve endurance. Anybody who is decently aerobically active is probably near to the ceiling that is genetically placed on their VO2 max, although there will be slight room for improvement nonetheless.

What you can train to get the most benefit is your ability to prolong output close to your VO2 max, rather than actually improve it. That's the key to endurance and aerobic athletes' performance.

 

[IronLion]

all I know is that when I had mine tested in college I had to quit not because I was failing but because the freaking darth vader mask made me feel like I was suffocating...lol

 

[Zander1983]

VO2 max is completely irrelevant to a football player. I find it odd that they'd even test for that.

I've only ever done the 20m shuttle run ("beep test"). My results are very similar now to what they were when I was an overweight and untrained 15 year old. Obviously there is a difference, but its not very substantial.

 

[IronLion]

The kinesiology dept. was doing a cross sectional study on al the different sports, so they tested body comp, vo2 max and ekg stuff i don't understand. All I know is my vo2 was the highest of anyone they had tested, i'll go eat a cookie now.

 

[Zander1983]

That's insane. You should be racing Lance Armstrong or something similar