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r-ALA experiment

th'wolf

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I think that maybe I can throw a slightly different spin on the current r-ALA craze. Coming back from surgery, you can be sure that I won't be doing any crazy-german-volume-training kinda stuff. Nonetheless, I need to get back on the wagon and drop some BF. I have no intensions of counting calories, my diet is inherently deficient in fats, but I really don't have any gravity to junk or sweets. So,.... I started the r-ALA experiment today to see if the weight comes off 'any differently'. Although I'm not an obese Zucker Rat, I thought I could represent the average Jane. I'm jotting down what I eat (approx. amounts), and when. I'll do my single site pinch test tonight for the purpose of identifying change. I've been doing stretch class and pilates 2x/week each with some weights (mostly upper body) added over the last two weeks. Like I said, nothing major. I thought that it would be good to seperate the results from the chemistry intensives. I'll try to remember to post once a week and invite all you other gals to do the same for easy cross reference.
 
mixed feelings

Week 1:

I have a few sides noted. I took 100mg r-ALA per 20-30g carbs which boiled down to 500-600mg r-ALA per day. I eat 5 times per day and would not take any if the meal carb intake did not excede 20g, so it is true that I typically consume more than 100g of carbs in a day. For the first two days I found myself getting lightheaded and flushed some (excess?) water. My sensitivity to caffeine has been on the rise. (This stuff gives me gas too.) Since about the third day, I've been struggling with some serious dehydration. I've increased my H2O intake but it doesn't seem to help much. My skin has grown so dry that I almost have a rash, my lips keep wanting to crack. But... my muscles have not ached like they have been since I finished my deca cycle 2 years ago. My endurance is noticibly up (ie. I was able to double my reps per set on situps).

The pants seemed to get a tad more loose around the waist and my daughter commented that I'd lost weight. I was expecting water weight loss on the scales today, but much to my surprise, I put on 2#'s. (no resistance training this week either,... oh, and no change in the calipers) So honestly, my head is spinning with some of the implications. I'm really intrigued with the way my muscles and endurance are responding and it makes me question my overall reaction to the deca. Then again, this dehydration has me way concerned.

That's all for this week.
 
Thanks for the posting! I've been doing some outside research on r-ala and keep coming up with information that conflicts with some of the info posted on the boards. I'm curious how your well your experiment works.
 
Hmmm, I've also had a problem with increased thrist and dehydration on r-ALA. My lips and skin are constanly parched now, and I drink and pee 24/7. It's just like when I'm on a contest diet!!
 
MS said:
Hmmm, I've also had a problem with increased thrist and dehydration on r-ALA. My lips and skin are constanly parched now, and I drink and pee 24/7. It's just like when I'm on a contest diet!!

I've had major problems with that too. I don't even fall asleep at night until after a dozen trips to the bathroom.
 
enough

major dehydration is a really bad mix with degenerative arthritis. I haven't had a decent nights sleep for over a week (getting up to pee; muscle cramps from dehydration; ?) Maybe this stuff would be a good compliment to a 'water retaining cycle' but on it's own, ... it's not worth it.
 
MS said:
Hmmm, I've also had a problem with increased thrist and dehydration on r-ALA. My lips and skin are constanly parched now, and I drink and pee 24/7. It's just like when I'm on a contest diet!!

Glycogen = glucose+potassium+4g water

Increased glycogen storage via r-ala w/o adding extra water
can dehydrate you.

Fonz
 
That's not the problem Fonz.....I drink plenty water. The glycogen storage is working fine with the r-ALA, but I am still peeing too much and getting dehydrated. In other words the water is going in one end and out the other without stopping off to hydrate the rest of my body inbetween (aside from my muscles). At a guess, this is the same phenomena that Ula experienced, resulting in a large reduction in interstitial and plasma fluid (and therefore her remarkably quick weight loss). Although it's prolly due to changes in insulin secretion (which is a good thing), there must be someway to counteract it without raising insulin levels????? I've tried potassium supps without success, so now I'm upping all of my electrolytes. I'll let you know if it helps.

If I can't get it sorted, I may also have to ditch the r-ALA. Dry skin, interrpupted sleep from polynocturia, and dehydration induced migraines are not just minor side effects for me!
 
USE LESS..

women may find that they can get away with lower doses as their insulin sensitivity is often higher. (with the menapausal being a different category)

note: taking flax oil with meals seems to help with the water issue.

also eat more carbs.. you can :)
 
" USE LESS.. " LOL. It's ironic in a previous thread how every one commented on how LITTLE I was using. But I agree, I'm obviously using more than I need. I already eat plenty of carbs (that's why I'm taking th r-ALA), so I'll save money and cut my dose some more. I think I'll start opening the caps and taking 50mg instead of 100 for smaller carb meals. I really think 100mg of r-ALA is too much when I've eaten nothing more than, say a muesli bar or hunza bread with 30g carbs in it for a snack. I also don't take the ALA with post workout carbs.
 
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