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Post-workout insulin spike bad when cutting?
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Dough!!! You are correct of course, thanks for correcting that! I think that I shall go back and edit my post to avoid confusing others. [Note to self: In the future do not try to whip off short consise answers to complex questions, especially while in a hurry!]Robboe said:
One other common source of sugar for many is honey. I think I remember seeing somewhere that honey is mostly fructose sugars, and a poor source of carbos for post-workout. On the other hand, I think it was supposedly touted to be great for endurance athletes pre-event for sustained energy. Anybody remember this study, I can't put my fingers on it now....
W6, and Remy, how do you feel about claims by food processors that maltodextrin rich products, like Splenda, have no insulin response? I have heard the arguments that a one teaspoon sugar-equivalent serving of Splenda is insufficient to evoke insulin responses. Is this correct? At what serving point should those on CKx diets (of which I do not personally care for) be concerned?
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Wow, thanks guys! Don't worry - I knew that fructose is a bad choice. I was just concerned that the insulin spike from high GI carbs would, as Robboe said, provide fat-storing conditions. However, since calories are in deficit, I need not worry about this, right?
Next question: Exactly HOW many grams, on average, does it take to replenish muscle glycogen stores after an intense weight training workout?
Next question: Exactly HOW many grams, on average, does it take to replenish muscle glycogen stores after an intense weight training workout?
"Next question: Exactly HOW many grams, on average, does it take to replenish muscle glycogen stores after an intense weight training workout?"
Depends on how much you oxidize. With endurance athletes (males) after complete depletion, probably 350 - 600 grams over 24 - 36 hours. For a bout of resistance exercise, much less. Don't know if that's ever been looked at. I'll have to dig in the lit.
"hey guys quit with all the scientific bullshit... "
What the **** did I go to grad school for if I can't have a little fun?
W6
Depends on how much you oxidize. With endurance athletes (males) after complete depletion, probably 350 - 600 grams over 24 - 36 hours. For a bout of resistance exercise, much less. Don't know if that's ever been looked at. I'll have to dig in the lit.
"hey guys quit with all the scientific bullshit... "
What the **** did I go to grad school for if I can't have a little fun?
W6
"Wow, thanks guys! Don't worry - I knew that fructose is a bad choice. I was just concerned that the insulin spike from high GI carbs would, as Robboe said, provide fat-storing conditions. However, since calories are in deficit, I need not worry about this, right?"
***The only concern you should have is whether you'd feel fatigued from the falling insulin levels [unless you have another carb meal afterward which would 'stabilise' insulin] and whether you feel you won;t get hunger pains from the fast digestion. This, however, is easily side stepped by incluidng fibrous green vegetables in every other remaining meal. I do this and have become quite accustomed to caulieflower and broccoli...
"Next question: Exactly HOW many grams, on average, does it take to replenish muscle glycogen stores after an intense weight training workout?"
***Depends on quite a lot of factors. How big are your muscles? how depelted are your glycogen stores? [eg marathon runner compared to say a HIT trainer] etc..
I think i remember seeing a formula like 0.8g carbs per kilo of bodyweight. I dunno if this is true in general, only true for 'bulking' purposes or only true for males.
Bigeasy, honey is half glucose half fructose I believe. I'm not sure about endurance athletes, but i've heard something similar to that myself. Oh, and all the studies showing that honey is a good post workout carbohydrate source for weight training athletes was financed by the national honey board. Hmmmm...
***The only concern you should have is whether you'd feel fatigued from the falling insulin levels [unless you have another carb meal afterward which would 'stabilise' insulin] and whether you feel you won;t get hunger pains from the fast digestion. This, however, is easily side stepped by incluidng fibrous green vegetables in every other remaining meal. I do this and have become quite accustomed to caulieflower and broccoli...
"Next question: Exactly HOW many grams, on average, does it take to replenish muscle glycogen stores after an intense weight training workout?"
***Depends on quite a lot of factors. How big are your muscles? how depelted are your glycogen stores? [eg marathon runner compared to say a HIT trainer] etc..
I think i remember seeing a formula like 0.8g carbs per kilo of bodyweight. I dunno if this is true in general, only true for 'bulking' purposes or only true for males.
Bigeasy, honey is half glucose half fructose I believe. I'm not sure about endurance athletes, but i've heard something similar to that myself. Oh, and all the studies showing that honey is a good post workout carbohydrate source for weight training athletes was financed by the national honey board. Hmmmm...
wilson6 said:
No, I didn't get the opportunity.
I agree with the statement 'In fact, both produce similar blood glucose and insulin responses' my response was regarding the digestion factor not specifically the outcome insulin response, I believe that blending the carb sources would produce the best overall result.
My other account under the handle Remy is not working right now incase you were wondering about the name change.
