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califighter
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Hi...
Go with a form of grappling.
You'll gain some flexiblility and you'll get a good all around work out. I consider myself pretty strong and I don't lift ever.
I'm not a body builder, I'm a fighter at 170lbs.
I train Brazilian Jiu jitsu 3-4 days a week, Judo 2 days a week and Muay Thai off and on (i trained full time in Thailand), add some no rules training 2 times a week. Thats when I'm not in agony from daily pains. Personaly, I get the best work out from jiu jitsu.
I've been able to make a beginner 250pounder sweat like he's never sweat before. Try Braziilan Jiu jitsu or submission wrestling. Shootfighting might be fun too if you're into striking. But its a different work out. Judo is a lot of fun, but it can be rough on the back. I've been babying mine all week!
have fun.
Go with a form of grappling.
You'll gain some flexiblility and you'll get a good all around work out. I consider myself pretty strong and I don't lift ever.
I'm not a body builder, I'm a fighter at 170lbs.
I train Brazilian Jiu jitsu 3-4 days a week, Judo 2 days a week and Muay Thai off and on (i trained full time in Thailand), add some no rules training 2 times a week. Thats when I'm not in agony from daily pains. Personaly, I get the best work out from jiu jitsu.
I've been able to make a beginner 250pounder sweat like he's never sweat before. Try Braziilan Jiu jitsu or submission wrestling. Shootfighting might be fun too if you're into striking. But its a different work out. Judo is a lot of fun, but it can be rough on the back. I've been babying mine all week!
have fun.
XBiker
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My recommendation to you, Mr. Bouncer is to learn some sort of mixed martial art, or train in more than one discipine.
I hold a belt in Tae Kwon Do, and it was great for the cardio workouts, learning to use your whole body as a weapon, and the theology behind it.
However, it was totally lacking on any ground fighting skills. Therefore, I joined a Jiu Jitsu team (NOT BJJ, mind U) and had a blast learning the ground work I needed to get the rest of the fighting skills I needed.
Look around your area, go in and talk to the instructors, take a class or two and then go with what feels right for you.
I hold a belt in Tae Kwon Do, and it was great for the cardio workouts, learning to use your whole body as a weapon, and the theology behind it.
However, it was totally lacking on any ground fighting skills. Therefore, I joined a Jiu Jitsu team (NOT BJJ, mind U) and had a blast learning the ground work I needed to get the rest of the fighting skills I needed.
Look around your area, go in and talk to the instructors, take a class or two and then go with what feels right for you.
Bouncer,
there is an outstanding bjj (brazilian jiu-jitsiu) school up on the north circular road run by john kavavagh.It's a full time school and there are a few very big lads there.I would highly recommend that you give it a try.I go there myself so pm me if you want to know more about the place.A lot of the lads there are doormen aswell.
best regards.
there is an outstanding bjj (brazilian jiu-jitsiu) school up on the north circular road run by john kavavagh.It's a full time school and there are a few very big lads there.I would highly recommend that you give it a try.I go there myself so pm me if you want to know more about the place.A lot of the lads there are doormen aswell.
best regards.
Kwai-Chang Caine
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What bighead said...
Take bighead's advice.
If you have a BJJ school near you then jump on that opportunity. The form of grappling I study is different (shootfighting), but I can say nothing but good things about the technique that BJJ players have on the ground. I would, however, advise you to find an additional school so that you may learn striking. Unless this school teaches a hybrid style of BJJ you won't learn striking. Try to find a boxing or Muay Thai kickboxing club to train with to supplement your BJJ classes. Training in both BJJ and boxing or Muay Thai will give you the skills you need to become a proficient fighter.
Take bighead's advice.
If you have a BJJ school near you then jump on that opportunity. The form of grappling I study is different (shootfighting), but I can say nothing but good things about the technique that BJJ players have on the ground. I would, however, advise you to find an additional school so that you may learn striking. Unless this school teaches a hybrid style of BJJ you won't learn striking. Try to find a boxing or Muay Thai kickboxing club to train with to supplement your BJJ classes. Training in both BJJ and boxing or Muay Thai will give you the skills you need to become a proficient fighter.
I would do some research, determin what is going to complement your bouncing job, i am a bouncer at a local club for 3 years, and utilize trapping and grapling, along with boxing and Thia Boxing. Just figure out what is availible in your area and find a martial art that you enjoy. Also i strongly recommend brazilian jiu-jitsiu if you can find it, its not very common especially in small towns and is kinda pricy.
FYI:
1990 Indiana Golden Gloves Champion
1991, 1992 Indiana State AKA Amature Kickboxing Champion
Martial arts instructor at Ballys in Houston TX
FYI:
1990 Indiana Golden Gloves Champion
1991, 1992 Indiana State AKA Amature Kickboxing Champion
Martial arts instructor at Ballys in Houston TX
I got respect for BJJ, it's an art the Gracie family developed and refined by taking all comers from any art in no-holds-barred matches. I would suggest reading a lot and looking around. Don't believe absolutely everything you read, however.
I've read a lot of information about over 50 arts, and tried out over 5 in practice. My personal favorite Hsing-I chuan. It's a bit like Tai Chi, but with more focus on being able to end a fight with one hit. It's much less well known, but while you'll have a harder time finding a kwoon that teaches it, you'll be less likely to find one that's fulla ****. Check out http://www.emptyflower.com/xingyiquan, it's the best site on any martial art.
I've read a lot of information about over 50 arts, and tried out over 5 in practice. My personal favorite Hsing-I chuan. It's a bit like Tai Chi, but with more focus on being able to end a fight with one hit. It's much less well known, but while you'll have a harder time finding a kwoon that teaches it, you'll be less likely to find one that's fulla ****. Check out http://www.emptyflower.com/xingyiquan, it's the best site on any martial art.
Kwai-Chang Caine
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Khafra,
Ending a fight with one hit? You can do that with simple boxing too. I wouldn't trust my life with anything that resembled tai chi on the streets. If you feel good about using that stuff against aggressive non-cooperative opponents then you my friend have fallen prey to HYPE.
This is how I see it elite brethren...
There is so much unessential crap out there in the martial arts. All kinds of tradition, people you're supposed to bow to, and other garbage. There are very few instructors out there that are worthy of such submission. The ones who are worthy I respect the hell out of, but many are just jokes. Because of this I picked an art that allows me to be the person I am, not some fuedal japanese or korean shoe shine lad. With traditional martial arts you waste incredible amounts of time with tedious things such as history, language, formality and friggin katas and pumses which resemble dance moves more than they do combat. For the bro who started this thread... Do you wanna dance, bow to Tae Kwon Do instructors with names like Joe and Bill, and learn how to count to ten in korean? Or would you like to learn how to really fight? Tradition bogs down the essence of what it is you are trying to accomplish. If you want to fight and know how to truly defend yourself forget tradition and find a BJJ, Shootfighting, or Pancrase school that is in the business of doing one thing and one thing only...TEACHING YOU HOW TO BEAT ASS!
It is schools like these where you will want to respect all who attend because you know that on your first day everyone there can drop you in a heartbeat. NHB fighters and practicioners dont think their techniques work, they know their techniques work. Life isn't a point sparring match bro. Practice as hard as you fight!!! Find a school and an art that will allow you to do just that.
Ending a fight with one hit? You can do that with simple boxing too. I wouldn't trust my life with anything that resembled tai chi on the streets. If you feel good about using that stuff against aggressive non-cooperative opponents then you my friend have fallen prey to HYPE.
This is how I see it elite brethren...
There is so much unessential crap out there in the martial arts. All kinds of tradition, people you're supposed to bow to, and other garbage. There are very few instructors out there that are worthy of such submission. The ones who are worthy I respect the hell out of, but many are just jokes. Because of this I picked an art that allows me to be the person I am, not some fuedal japanese or korean shoe shine lad. With traditional martial arts you waste incredible amounts of time with tedious things such as history, language, formality and friggin katas and pumses which resemble dance moves more than they do combat. For the bro who started this thread... Do you wanna dance, bow to Tae Kwon Do instructors with names like Joe and Bill, and learn how to count to ten in korean? Or would you like to learn how to really fight? Tradition bogs down the essence of what it is you are trying to accomplish. If you want to fight and know how to truly defend yourself forget tradition and find a BJJ, Shootfighting, or Pancrase school that is in the business of doing one thing and one thing only...TEACHING YOU HOW TO BEAT ASS!
It is schools like these where you will want to respect all who attend because you know that on your first day everyone there can drop you in a heartbeat. NHB fighters and practicioners dont think their techniques work, they know their techniques work. Life isn't a point sparring match bro. Practice as hard as you fight!!! Find a school and an art that will allow you to do just that.
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