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[JKurz1]

how come you list the same numbers for the meal with superlean steak (or) salmon?

In my opinion, 8oz salmon and 2tbsp Flax is way too much fat in one serving.

Unless I understood this incorrectly and what you meant is

8oz steak + 2bsp Oil OR 8oz salmon

THNX FOR THE SUPPORT BOYS...actually started this diet Monday, gained 3 lbs as of today, so I am turning backand cutting again. KIDDING! No, I just wanted to get dialed in BEFORE I started. I want to gain a few lean pounds, begin my 200mg of test/week HRT therapy, get my training down, recover from doing the traitholon last week and go. August 1 seems like a good date, maybe sooner.....depends howI feel (plus, I need to STOP doing am cardio which I cant, and I need to incorporate a rest day and a cheat day...I am training everyday of the week in some fashion and my weight is dropping like an anerexic chick!!)

As for the beef meal, 8oz of beef is only 8 grams of fat..superleanm meaning buffalo, ostrich or 97% lean....+ 14g of flax (meant to say 1tbs, sorry = 22g of fat...sorry!) How does it look? Can I get away with not doing cardio in the morning, but maybe 2-3 times a week, sit all day and keep the abs in line with the test? Thanks!

 

[gjohnson5]

Get rid of the cardio completely. Just my opinion.

People have been telling him this for years....

 

[Lifterforlife]

I would do cardio just for cardiovascular health. Nothing serious, no HIIT, etc.

 

[gjohnson5]

I would do cardio just for cardiovascular health. Nothing serious, no HIIT, etc.

I agree to a certain extent
But when your 6'2 and 166lb's I think gaining muscle is more important than cariovascular health. A person of that size doesn't generally die of heart attacks...

Seriously , I think he should up the calories and use weight training to burn calories as was suggested

 

[Lifterforlife]

Just shows how different everyone is. When I am bulking, if I completely cut out cardio for more than a few weeks, I actually get winded much easier doing simple stupid moving type stuff.

But, if I add in just a bit of low intensity cardio, 'voila, this does not happen anymore. I can always up my calories a bit to compensate, which I find(and I can't imagine how anyone couldn't) very easy.

 

[gjohnson5]

Just shows how different everyone is. When I am bulking, if I completely cut out cardio for more than a few weeks, I actually get winded much easier doing simple stupid moving type stuff.

But, if I add in just a bit of low intensity cardio, 'voila, this does not happen anymore. I can always up my calories a bit to compensate, which I find(and I can't imagine how anyone couldn't) very easy.

But are you 6'2 166?? That's skinny for even a basketball player

 

[Lifterforlife]

But are you 6'2 166?? That's skinny for even a basketball player

Major point!

 

[JKurz1]

Gus is right....I am wayyy to frail and skinny, but 4 triatholons in 1 year will do that.....my goal is to never run again, and transition back into a bodybuilding with the hopes of competeing....what would you deem as very low intensity that I could do in the am, before I sit for 10 hours+ Treadmill only as I get cramped on the bike.......today I tried 3.5mph and a 7.5 incline for 30 minutes and still managed to sweat.....what do you think?

 

[gjohnson5]

Gus is right....I am wayyy to frail and skinny, but 4 triatholons in 1 year will do that.....my goal is to never run again, and transition back into a bodybuilding with the hopes of competeing....what would you deem as very low intensity that I could do in the am, before I sit for 10 hours+ Treadmill only as I get cramped on the bike.......today I tried 3.5mph and a 7.5 incline for 30 minutes and still managed to sweat.....what do you think?

Seriously, was starting to wonder if you were HIV+

 

[alex2678]

I doubt the 30 minutes on the treadmill in morning will have a major impact on the way you feel for the rest of the day. Might loosen you up for the first hour or so but 10 hours behind a desk is still 10 hours behind a desk. But if must then go ahead and replace the calories later on.

Regarding the gum and bloating. At 6'2 165 pounds and 30 years old, water retention of anykind should be considered a blessing. Except disappearing abs for a while or you will never gain a pound. I think we've all said this a thousand times before. Hope some of it sticks. You have a pretty good sized eating disorder from being a former fat kid it looks like. Work on it now while you're young or you'll be in for a whole world of problems later on both physically and psychologically. Best of luck.