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Hey Natural Dudes - How Come You Are Natural?

G1,

That last reply was right on. Goddess has a good point.

Whatever you think about gear, this is THE place to get real BB info. So, skip the roid debate and go to work gathering info from hardcore BBs that will help you get BIG naturally.

Like your name by the way.
 
you all have to realize something. i've never been able to gain weight(at all). so now i'm in the gym pumping more weight then ever and gaining weight like they were giving it out for free. so now i go to the gym and i get all cocky and think "those silly roid heads, i can do it without that crap!". OF COURSE, once my gains start to slow down i'm sure i'm not going to talk so much shit. and if my gains stop completly then i'll probably be hiding my head thinking to myself "i wonder if these guys would talk shit if i started juicing." (i still would make the conscience decision not to take gear) but you get what i'm saying? i'm talking shit, simple as that. you guys sure did take offense to it though. to tell you the truth it's been pretty entertaining pushing your buttons:D
 
Re: Re: Re: "the next level???????"

Godly1 said:


the winner? ok, when you're dead at the age of fifty

Tell that to someone I know who is 56 and has been juicing since he was 20 years old.
He has done an average of 3 cycles a year. He's still kicking and he gets hella pussy.
When your all "healthy" and "kicking" at 50,you wont get no pussy.
 
curling said:
Is it health reasons? Is it because of the cost? The stupid steroids laws? Or what?

Health reasons:

Partially. I know that steroid use accompanied by the significantly increased macronutrient requirements will have negative effects on my future health; however, most things will, so this is not the main reason.

The cost:

I can easily afford an exemplary first cycle. (If I knew what a good first cycle was, that is.)

The stupid steroid laws:

I do what I please. If I want to gamble, I will gamble. If I want to drive a little faster than the speed limit, I will drive a little faster than the speed limit. I do everything I do based on desire, not legality. So this is not a reason at all.

The main reason I am and will continue to be natural is simply because of my goals. I'm not looking to be a 280lb ripped mass monster. My long-term goal is 215-225lbs at 6-8% bodyfat. I have a naturally fast metabolism, so the bodyfat part is not difficult. I've got about 45lbs to go, and I know I can do it in the years to come.

I don't see bodybuilding as a race. The journey is part of the destination. I don't want to skip from 175lbs to 200lbs without knowing what 185lbs was like. I know that every pound I gain will be a pound that I keep, and I know that I will look good year-round. Not going to be a fat slob for half the year only to get ripped for 2 weeks before becoming a fat slob again.

Think about it. Two trainees both at 175lbs. Once juices and gets to 225lbs within a year, the other remains natural and finally reaches 225lbs in 5-7 years. The difference? Well, tell me who worked harder and who is going to appreciate it more.

-Warik
 
Godly1 said:
i agree with what you say about moderation(although i wouldn't go as far as to say that they are good for you). but honestly? how many people are going to get into using steroids first of all, deciding that it's "the healthy choice", second, how many actaully stay at that level of use that is cosidered to be "moderate".

like i said before, i'm not trying to get huge though. even considering the fact that my wife would enjoy it. i am who i am.


Why do you think your wife wants you to get huge? I'm sure she loves you just the way you are and wouldn't want you to do anything that you felt was wrong or criminal.
 
very well spoken warik.

and as for houndog..... what would ever make you assume that i won't get pussy when i'm 50? what i get you would surely be jealous of i'll tell you that. besides, it's not about the "pussy" it's about the whole woman and the way she completes you as a person that counts. (fuck it if that sounds corny, but i love my wife.)
 
Godly1 said:
very well spoken warik.

and as for houndog..... what would ever make you assume that i won't get pussy when i'm 50? what i get you would surely be jealous of i'll tell you that. besides, it's not about the "pussy" it's about the whole woman and the way she completes you as a person that counts. (fuck it if that sounds corny, but i love my wife.)

No, that doesn't sound corny at all. Personally, that's exactly what I'm looking for, too. But, since a high-quality, wonderful woman is hard to find one may as well get some "pussy" in the meantime since the search could take many, many years. It took me 22 years to find the first one and the second may take just as long.
 
health

I guess the reason Ive stayed natural is not so much the side
effects as much as the fact that so many of the side effects are
directly sexually related. Cancer i can deal with, but having
my nuts shrink or growing breasts would almost be counter-productive,
since attracting females is at least part of why Im training in the first
place. Im sure I have been told many myths about how dangerous
gear is, but if even half of the stuff I hear is true, Ill stay away.
but...to each his own.
 
curling said:
This thread is for natural dudes over 20 years old for obvious reasons. You shouldn't do gear unless you are over 20.

So how come you are natural? There have been countless threads on why people juice so I am curious to see what your reasons are for not juicing.

Is it health reasons? Is it because of the cost? The stupid steroids laws? Or what?

Health reason. Previous problems with the Kidneys and don't want to take the risk.

Besides like Warik my goals are not to become super massive. I have enough bulk on the frame now so even if I could it would still be a waist of money.
 
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