Hey Natural Dudes - How Come You Are Natural?

[Grizzly]

I got some more proof last night. My sister and her roomate were talking and they both were saying how they wouldn't want a guy who worked out because they didn't want him to make them workout and they would always be worried that he was thinking they were fat.

 

[Kid Blast]

my friend has been really putting the presure on me to take them so im thinking about it all the time. I just dont want to be the guy everyone is talking about in the gym or at home saying i'm taking roids....

Hey man,

Don't let anybody pressure you to do anything. Whatever you think about gear - good or bad - that's not a real friend. You can use gear or avoid it, but your real friends shouldn't put undue pressure on you.

 

[Kid Blast]

Particularly because most women don't even care for extremely muscular men(There are exceptions of course.)

I kinda agree with Grizzly on this. I actually think that although women say men don't need to be muscular, they really are thrilled when a guy is ripped and big. Of course, they often say they prefer the "Men's Health" look. But I think they're secretly attracted to men who are even bigger. Just maybe a little intimidated.

You also have to consider that a woman may say she doesn't like a photo of Arnold ripped up for a contest, but she likes how he looks in the movies. And bbs aren't contest ripped all the time.

Women tell me that they like the feeling of safety and security that comes from being with a bb. Besides, I used to work in a huge office, and a bunch of the women told me that big biceps were a huge turn on.

The truth is that women are attracted to men with great personalities, money, power and excellent bodies. (Of course, if you got the other stuff, being huge or just naturally muscular probably makes little difference.)

 

[Grizzly]

what kills me is the people who costantly use gear but are afraid to admit it. like they are fooling anyone.

90% of the people that know how to diet, train and use gear (constantly) look like they are on gear.

There's a reason people who use deny it. Look at some of the threads on here. "I find out someone uses and lose all respect for them." That's the reason people deny it. Despite the fact that steroids don't "make you big" people automatically assume that the only reason some is big is because they use. So why admit it and have your accomplishments diminished?

You, on the other hand, seem to have it down. "People who know how to diet, train and use gear..." That's the thing. One must know how to diet and train in order to get the benefits, but most people just attribute it to the drugs. It's kind of lame.

 

[Godly1]

if gear doesn't "make you big", then why have i seen several posts about people losing it all when they come off a cycle? you're putting chemicals into your body that don't need to be there. i've seen people on gear and i've seen natural bb's with twice the size. bottom line is that since(as grizzly said) there are many people that you could never guess they used gear by looking at them, then it's not as helpful as a good routine and good nutrition. therefore it is useless to me.

and yes, women find big muscular guys disgusting,,,,,,,, at least the ones they see in the magazine anyway. however in real life those guys aren't all pumped and oiled up so i don't believe most women would pass them up. muscles make you masculine, you then appear to women as someone who can keep them safe and protect your home and family.

 

[Grizzly]

if gear doesn't "make you big", then why have i seen several posts about people losing it all when they come off a cycle? you're putting chemicals into your body that don't need to be there. i've seen people on gear and i've seen natural bb's with twice the size. bottom line is that since(as grizzly said) there are many people that you could never guess they used gear by looking at them, then it's not as helpful as a good routine and good nutrition. therefore it is useless to me.

Ok, gear does help make you larger. However, that is, as I said, only in conjuction with proper training and nutrition. Also, one must properly use the gear to get the benefits. That's why the people lost all of their gains. My guess, no post cycle therapy. Also, steroids are not chemicals that don't need to be in your body. They're testosterone, which is already present in your body. Ok, some of them are not test, but they all raise your Test levels.
You are right, though. Gear isn't as important as good nutrition and proper training. However, when you've got the other two down pat, then the gear is the icing on the muscle building cake.

 

[Sniperwolf]

I have to agree with Blood and Iron here. Most women can't stand big muscular men; they make jokes about them. The natural looking ripped guy is usually always going to get the girl over the big steriod injected muscular 'oath' who is trying to flex his triceps every couple of minutes. I blame muscle magazines for this way of thinking. The magazines are always showing big guys with nice fitness models, however, they are just trying to sell supplements by making consumers believe if they get bigger, they too will be able to score fitness models.

 

[FitnessFrk]

muscles don't make the man..

if you can't pull any wool without them(muscles) then getting big isn't going to help your game.

 

[needsize]

My goal has always been to be a freak, but if you are only doing it to attract women, then you're not a bodybuilder anyway, buy an expensive car and save yourself the effort!

 

[curling]

I disagree about women not liking body builders. My cousin does roids and he is 6'2" weighing in about 230 with 10% body fat. And he gets chicks coming on to him ALL the time. He is almost gauranteed to get laid when he goes out. And the chicks are hotties too. Anyway I just wanted to clear that up because I don't believe it for a minute. Because I have seen that shit with my own eyes. Also ever since I have been juicing and getting bigger and more cut chicks have been coming on to me too more than when I was skinny or fat.