Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Yes, I see a huge difference in my form and that of the lifter in the video you posted Spatts. I will definitely focus on keeping my hips down lower at the start of the lift next time, and lean way back with it. Dr. Bones, I will try to keep the back rounding issue in mind the next time I do deads. Thanks everyone. Any more suggestions on exercises to do to bring up my PR? Keep the comments coming.
Goal: 500lb. Deadlift
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cripes.. didn't you read my reply. I said the same stuff!..
IMO.. focus on building your core strength and lifting technique. As Clint has told me before.. "patience bryan, patience!"
500# will come soon enough but don't push yourself crazy to make it in 5 weeks or something like that.. too agressive, too risky...
peace..
IMO.. focus on building your core strength and lifting technique. As Clint has told me before.. "patience bryan, patience!"
500# will come soon enough but don't push yourself crazy to make it in 5 weeks or something like that.. too agressive, too risky...
peace..
I personally think that lifter is overdoing it. You don't want your deadlift to look like a stiff legged deadlift. On the other hand, if you are pulling conventional I don't think you should squat the bar up. Sumo is a complete other issue. When you squat down that low you throw your knees forward so you wind up pulling the bar around them...not in a straight line.
http://www.asylum-strength.com/videos/h551rbdl.mpg
My form is far from perfect, but it is decent. Would be easier to see if it was from the side....but notice how little my hips move vertically. I start with them as close to the bar as possible for better leverage. And as Spatts said it is important for it to be ONE movement....not two or three seperate movements.
http://www.testosterone.net/articles/194dead.html
Mistake #10: Starting with the hips too low
This is the king of all mistakes I see. Too many times lifters try to squat the weight up rather than pull the weight. Think back to the number of times you've seen a big deadlift and thought to yourself how much more the lifter could've pulled if he didn't damn near stiff-leg it. I see it all the time. Someone will say, "Did you see his deadlift?" Then the other guy will comment, "Yeah, and he stiff-legged the thing." Am I telling you to stiff leg all your deadlifts? No, not at all.
All I want you to do is look at your hip position at the start of the lift when you pull and watch how much your hips move up before the weight begins to break the floor. This is wasted movement and does nothing except wear you out before the pull. The closer you can keep your hips to the bar when you pull, the better the leverages are going to be.
Once again, next time you see a great deadlifter, stand off to the side and watch how close his or her hips stay to the bar throughout the pull. If you're putting your ass to the floor before you pull, your hips are about a mile from the bar. You're setting yourself up for disaster when the lever arm is this long. This is also the second reason why lifters can't get the bar off the floor. (The first reason is very simple: The bar is too heavy!)
You need to find the perfect spot where your hips are close to the bar, your shoulders are behind the bar, your lower back is arched, your upper back rounded, your belly full of air, and you can pull toward your body. Nobody ever said it was going to be easy, but then again, what is? (Definitely not training in a commercial health club….)
http://www.asylum-strength.com/videos/h551rbdl.mpg
My form is far from perfect, but it is decent. Would be easier to see if it was from the side....but notice how little my hips move vertically. I start with them as close to the bar as possible for better leverage. And as Spatts said it is important for it to be ONE movement....not two or three seperate movements.
http://www.testosterone.net/articles/194dead.html
Mistake #10: Starting with the hips too low
This is the king of all mistakes I see. Too many times lifters try to squat the weight up rather than pull the weight. Think back to the number of times you've seen a big deadlift and thought to yourself how much more the lifter could've pulled if he didn't damn near stiff-leg it. I see it all the time. Someone will say, "Did you see his deadlift?" Then the other guy will comment, "Yeah, and he stiff-legged the thing." Am I telling you to stiff leg all your deadlifts? No, not at all.
All I want you to do is look at your hip position at the start of the lift when you pull and watch how much your hips move up before the weight begins to break the floor. This is wasted movement and does nothing except wear you out before the pull. The closer you can keep your hips to the bar when you pull, the better the leverages are going to be.
Once again, next time you see a great deadlifter, stand off to the side and watch how close his or her hips stay to the bar throughout the pull. If you're putting your ass to the floor before you pull, your hips are about a mile from the bar. You're setting yourself up for disaster when the lever arm is this long. This is also the second reason why lifters can't get the bar off the floor. (The first reason is very simple: The bar is too heavy!)
You need to find the perfect spot where your hips are close to the bar, your shoulders are behind the bar, your lower back is arched, your upper back rounded, your belly full of air, and you can pull toward your body. Nobody ever said it was going to be easy, but then again, what is? (Definitely not training in a commercial health club….)
My conventional is more like Hannibal's....not crouched down, and not stiff legged. A balance of hip and back force. I see conventional as like a GM and a dead put together, and a sumo like a squat and a dead together. Not sure if that makes sense to anyone but me. LOL
CK, I didn't mean to make you mad man. I don't think I looked over your post. I tried to answer your question of where my sticking point was, and I did take heed to your advice.
I am getting some confusion now. It seems some people say put the hips low, and others are saying that the hips shouldn't be so low. I still think mine need to be lower than what they have been though. If my arms only hung to my knees, I wouldn't have to worry about all this,
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I am getting some confusion now. It seems some people say put the hips low, and others are saying that the hips shouldn't be so low. I still think mine need to be lower than what they have been though. If my arms only hung to my knees, I wouldn't have to worry about all this,
.I definitely need to focus on core strength, be more solid in general. So, what are the best exercises to do this? I have already heard pull thrus, GM's, and box squats. I am not asking for variations of the deadlift, just other exercises that will build the deadlift. Oh, and I am fully aware I may not get 500 lbs. in 5 weeks. But hey, I figure why not shoot for the moon, cause if I shoot for 500, but only get 475, that is still a good gain.
Don't let Hannibal and I confuse you...we agree. The point is to USE your hips. Sometimes people have to change dead form based on their personal body structure. Long torso, short arms, etc...
Whether you are starting low, or in the middle (never high unless you can't do it any other way), the point is to thrust your hips forward. Your hips are the fulcrum, and you always want to keep the weight as close to the fulcrum as possible.
Whether you are starting low, or in the middle (never high unless you can't do it any other way), the point is to thrust your hips forward. Your hips are the fulcrum, and you always want to keep the weight as close to the fulcrum as possible.
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