First Cycle, Test cyp and Dbol, need opinions

[MuscleHouse]

Hey guys, i havent been on here for a while but im finally back now. I think i posted a long time ago asking for opinions about a first cycle of AAS but i backed down and continued to train naturally for a while longer. Now im back and made my decision to jump on AAS now that i have a better base to start with. After i posted a while ago, i went from 170lbs @ 6%bf to 181lbs @ 9%bf. Im 21 and ive been training consistently with solid dieting regimens for 4 years now as well as done 1 NGA show and placed 2nd. Im just looking for some opinions on if i should add or take away from my upcoming cycle. Thanks a ton in advance! My cycle is as follows......

Test Cyp dosed at 250mg twice a week for 12 weeks
Kickstart with 40mg Dbol ED for 5 weeks
.5mg Arimidex EOD during cycle (yes im aware of the "it may hinder results" talk, but im doing it as precautionary to i REALLY wanna minimize side effects)

PCT will be....

1mg Arimidex ED for 5-6weeks
60mg Nolvadex ED for 5-6 weeks
(was gonna run clomid as well but had many PRO bodybuilders tell me its not neccessary for such a basic cycle)
Thanks for any advice you guys have!

 

[MuscleHouse]

By the way, I am a personal trainer and have been for 3 years now. I also have an Associates Degree in Sports Nutrition AND ive been training along side many pro card bodybuilders for 2 years. So my diet and training regimen is in check, TRUST ME

 

[TheRippedReverend]

By the way, I am a personal trainer and have been for 3 years now. I also have an Associates Degree in Sports Nutrition AND ive been training along side many pro card bodybuilders for 2 years. So my diet and training regimen is in check, TRUST ME

Id trust you if you knew more about pct bc it STANKS like pooooooop!

How tall r u?

What r ur goals?

Dbol ran 4 as a kicker

Adex could be a lill high imo

How are you gonna keep ur nuts funtioning?

Bp?

Cholesterol?

Cortisol?

Have u researshed this?

First cyc?

Fuuuuuck finger workout rite now mud fluffer

 

[MuscleHouse]

I know plenty about PCT. Ive been told thats all I need to run for a simple first cycle like this.

Im 5"9' I wake up at 181 lbs and im 9% bf
Just had a full check up 1 month ago and im fully healthy....BP is PERFECT, Cholesterol right where it should be, liver enzymes perfect, nothing negative in blood work whatsoever

 

[joeblow12345]

Like the reverand stated your pct sucks and it seems as if you havent researched cycling enough. The nolva pct is an outdated protocol. The risks dont outweigh the benefits of using it. A low dose clomid is much safer and effective. Your adex dose is too high. You do understand that no estrogen is just as bad as high estrogen? It carries just as many health risks as well as limiting gains. I also didnt see any hcg or natural test boosters in your pct. This will make recovery alot easier. I would rather not do a pct then use nolva. Your recovery will be just as bad, but atleast you wont risk the sides that nolva carries. I will say that if you do have breast cancer, then the benefits of nolva outweigh the risks.

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[bigbassturd]

Ripped Rev actually was questioning if you knew how to protect these things while on cycle, not if they were currently healthy.

You dont know anything about pct if you think nolvadex serves any purpose at all

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[MuscleHouse]

Ok so instead of making me feel like an idiot, how bout you guys give me some advice on proper PCT?

PS i know its tough love on these forums so im not offended ha

What could i use in place of nolva? i heard clomid has too many sides and is unneccesary for a first simple cycle like this....apparently this isnt true. So other opinions would be appreciated

 

[Preferredautosonline]

Ok so instead of making me feel like an idiot, how bout you guys give me some advice on proper PCT?

PS i know its tough love on these forums so im not offended ha

What could i use in place of nolva? i heard clomid has too many sides and is unneccesary for a first simple cycle like this....apparently this isnt true. So other opinions would be appreciated

Clomid 100/50/50/25
Hcg to help recover and get your boys back to where they need to be

 

[joeblow12345]

1-12 test 500 mgs week
1-4 dbol 40 mgs day
1-18 adex 0.5 mg eod
10-14 hcg 250 ius twice a week
14-18 clomid 25 mg day
14-18 post cycle/ unleashed combo or a natural test booster of your choice
18-22 bridge or sarms ( I personally run one after the other to keep gaining while recovering from the juice).
Throughout run your normal supps and something to protect liver from the dbol.

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[MuscleHouse]

1-12 test 500 mgs week
1-4 dbol 40 mgs day
1-18 adex 0.5 mg eod
10-14 hcg 250 ius twice a week
14-18 clomid 25 mg day
14-18 post cycle/ unleashed combo or a natural test booster of your choice
18-22 bridge or sarms ( I personally run one after the other to keep gaining while recovering from the juice).
Throughout run your normal supps and something to protect liver from the dbol.

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Only 4 weeks of the dianabol will be enough to kick for a slow ester like cyp?
and as for pct, i should start the hcg during the last 2 weeks of the test? how would i do the dosing days if im shooting the test on mondays and thurs?