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Faizakafez
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What are you stats?
6000kcals is not really a mass plan imo maybe a fat plan but not mass
6000kcals is not really a mass plan imo maybe a fat plan but not mass
iceman7
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- Since you work out in the morning, I'd leave the flaxseed for later in the day. Not with your big breakfast shake. I'd get some fruit there instead.
- Pre workout, Gatorade isn't exactly the finest carb choice. Eat something whole an hour before your workout. Like a baked sweet potato.
- Post workout, I'd skip the protein bar and have a shake instead. 50 gms of whey and maltodextrin. You need something fast acting. Bars take a lot longer to digest than a shake.
- Peanuts for Brunch? Have a nice whole meal an hour and a half after your workout. Some chicken breast or beef, green veggies and brown rice for example.
- I'd avoid the milk in your afternoon shake. Add some olive oil or flaxseeds to your shake now.
- Hormell Beef tips for dinner? Bad choice again. Eat a good cut of lean meat instead with veggies and an olive oil dressing or something. Oily fish would be a good choice as well. Again forget the milk.
- Late night bread = hours and hours on the treadmill when you're tyring to cut. Forget the carbs in your last meal. And substitute peanuts with almonds and walnuts instead. Skip the V8 as well. Eat some cottage cheese, nuts and an apple.
The problem with your diet is that you'll bulk up... but not qith quality muscle. You'll have a ton of fat to shed later on. Eat as many whole foods you can. Forget about the calories. You can eat candy and take the calorie count to 10,000 but thats useless.
Anyway, heres a modification of your diet which I think will do you a lot of good.
Meal 1 - Milk, Oats, 2 Scoops of mass gainer, fruit.
- WORKOUT - (eat some stachy carb at least 30 mins before)
Meal 2 - (Post workout) 2-3 scoops whey, 50 gms Maltodextrin, 2 slices of white bread, banana.
Meal 3 - (Lunch) Chicken breast, oats, steamed veggies.
Meal 4 - MRP shake, fruit.
Meal 5 - (Snack) Nuts
Meal 6 - (Dinner) Veggies and olive oil, Steak/Fish
Meal 7 - Cottage cheese, almonds, apple.
Good luck.
- Pre workout, Gatorade isn't exactly the finest carb choice. Eat something whole an hour before your workout. Like a baked sweet potato.
- Post workout, I'd skip the protein bar and have a shake instead. 50 gms of whey and maltodextrin. You need something fast acting. Bars take a lot longer to digest than a shake.
- Peanuts for Brunch? Have a nice whole meal an hour and a half after your workout. Some chicken breast or beef, green veggies and brown rice for example.
- I'd avoid the milk in your afternoon shake. Add some olive oil or flaxseeds to your shake now.
- Hormell Beef tips for dinner? Bad choice again. Eat a good cut of lean meat instead with veggies and an olive oil dressing or something. Oily fish would be a good choice as well. Again forget the milk.
- Late night bread = hours and hours on the treadmill when you're tyring to cut. Forget the carbs in your last meal. And substitute peanuts with almonds and walnuts instead. Skip the V8 as well. Eat some cottage cheese, nuts and an apple.
The problem with your diet is that you'll bulk up... but not qith quality muscle. You'll have a ton of fat to shed later on. Eat as many whole foods you can. Forget about the calories. You can eat candy and take the calorie count to 10,000 but thats useless.
Anyway, heres a modification of your diet which I think will do you a lot of good.
Meal 1 - Milk, Oats, 2 Scoops of mass gainer, fruit.
- WORKOUT - (eat some stachy carb at least 30 mins before)
Meal 2 - (Post workout) 2-3 scoops whey, 50 gms Maltodextrin, 2 slices of white bread, banana.
Meal 3 - (Lunch) Chicken breast, oats, steamed veggies.
Meal 4 - MRP shake, fruit.
Meal 5 - (Snack) Nuts
Meal 6 - (Dinner) Veggies and olive oil, Steak/Fish
Meal 7 - Cottage cheese, almonds, apple.
Good luck.
jumpmaster82
Well-known member
very good diet, looks you put in alot of effort planning it. But my only thing is this, it is very easy to stay on the perfect diet and routine Mon-fri. But most ppl run into trouble on the diet when it comes to weekends, I know I do. Just throwing it out there so try to adjust for that if you need to.
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hehateme000
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im 5'10", 23 y/o idk about body fat but im 183-185 lbs. ive been training and workin out since freshman year football all the way through till now. i just havent been eating the best and now im tryin to get some mass before i might get on some gear...but that wont be for like another year. ok so heres my revised meal plan after reading all the replies thank you guys!!!
*****And again, i know i should be eating more chicken and eggs, and when i have the chance to i will make myself a big breakfast but since im limited on time i need more shakes....jus lettin all of u know
Morning: 4 cups milk
2 scoops ON serious mass
OR
3 eggs
2 pieces toast
3 cups milk
fruit
Calories: 1,810 (!) or 860
Pre W/O: Gatorade (just to have carbs in me because im still full from the morning shake haha)
Calories: 125
Post W/O: 3 Scoops Big Blast Super Plasma Protein Mix
2.5 tbsp flaxseed
2 cups milk
Banana
Gatorade
Calories: 950
Brunch: chicken strips
vegetable plate
1/2 bag peanuts OR Almonds
V8 drink (i like this drink because its 100% juice with fruits and veggies)
Calories: 900
Afternoon: 2 pieces whole wheat bread
Protein bar
2 servings carrots
other 1/2 bag of peanuts
Calories: 1015
Dinner: Broccoli
Beef Tri-tip Pot roast or Fish and Chicken
Mashed Potatoes or Brown rice
2 cups milk
Calories: 1,070
Late Night: 4 pieces whole grain white bread
Broccoli (10 stems)
2 cups milk
V8 100% juice drink OR piece of fruit
Calories: 860
And ill take some fish oil, DX7 or Animal Pak (ive always like animal pak nelson but ill look at the DX7 idk anything about it), and my other supps like UNLEASHED, VIGOR, and laetrile (vitamin b-17, my moms husband that died before i was born was a doctor that gave people laetrile instead of kemo and he got thrown in jail numerous times by the government and he got fined millions because the government wants kemo to stay---kinda sad
) Anyway, hows the revision??
*****And again, i know i should be eating more chicken and eggs, and when i have the chance to i will make myself a big breakfast but since im limited on time i need more shakes....jus lettin all of u know
Morning: 4 cups milk
2 scoops ON serious mass
OR
3 eggs
2 pieces toast
3 cups milk
fruit
Calories: 1,810 (!) or 860
Pre W/O: Gatorade (just to have carbs in me because im still full from the morning shake haha)
Calories: 125
Post W/O: 3 Scoops Big Blast Super Plasma Protein Mix
2.5 tbsp flaxseed
2 cups milk
Banana
Gatorade
Calories: 950
Brunch: chicken strips
vegetable plate
1/2 bag peanuts OR Almonds
V8 drink (i like this drink because its 100% juice with fruits and veggies)
Calories: 900
Afternoon: 2 pieces whole wheat bread
Protein bar
2 servings carrots
other 1/2 bag of peanuts
Calories: 1015
Dinner: Broccoli
Beef Tri-tip Pot roast or Fish and Chicken
Mashed Potatoes or Brown rice
2 cups milk
Calories: 1,070
Late Night: 4 pieces whole grain white bread
Broccoli (10 stems)
2 cups milk
V8 100% juice drink OR piece of fruit
Calories: 860
And ill take some fish oil, DX7 or Animal Pak (ive always like animal pak nelson but ill look at the DX7 idk anything about it), and my other supps like UNLEASHED, VIGOR, and laetrile (vitamin b-17, my moms husband that died before i was born was a doctor that gave people laetrile instead of kemo and he got thrown in jail numerous times by the government and he got fined millions because the government wants kemo to stay---kinda sad
) Anyway, hows the revision??
Faizakafez
New member
your calories are 6730 approx
at 180lbs... you do know this a recipe for getting fat right? eat according to your lbm or desired lbm within reason... 7000 cals is not needed
at 180lbs... you do know this a recipe for getting fat right? eat according to your lbm or desired lbm within reason... 7000 cals is not needed
Faizakafez said:
I know that when I'm around 180-200lbs and i'm eating 5-6k cals...i dont worry about putting any kinda bodyfat on at all. Only water. With my kind of metabolism, I havn't a worry of putting on any fat. I assume hehateme is either like me, or prefers to bulk in the winter, and cut in the summer.
Its much better for your body and health for you to bulk cleanly is all were saying here.
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hehateme000
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i understand that it might be a little too much, but im gonna be doing this until i can take a cycle...i want to learn good habits now and i want to see them get maximized and put me over the edge when i start gear. Khemix, thats true it is practically impossible for me to put fat on, but even if i do, id rather start there and include cardio on my cycle. i want to get as strong and big as i can, and if i DO get a little fat on me, it wont be a problem at all to lose it. Especially with gear.
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hehateme000
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hahaha THANK YOU jac!
