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Calories for Bulking

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Your revised diet is much more complex incorporating more dense protein sources which are far superior to shakes etc. It is NOT too many calories nor are they too dirty. Bit fatty but thats ok for bulking. I would suggest that you are a little light on carbs & most are at the end of the day. Try to reverse this & get in oatmeal & cereals for start of day. Stack looks gtg. Nice all round mass gainer plan.
 
definetly .....day by day i will switch some things around and make sure i get the energy (carbs) more in the day, thanks for all the replies.....and just to ask everybody if i ever did this diet with a bulking cycle of

week 1-12 = test e 500mg EW
week 1-4 = dbol 50mg ED
week 1-15 = EQ 600mg EW
week 3-15 = hcg 250iu 2x EW (Mon/Thur)

week 16-20 = clomid 100mg/50mg/50mg/50mg/50mg ED
week 16-20 = nolva 40mg/40mg/20mg/20mg/20mg ED

train hard, get enough sleep, and stick to this diet, around how much weight do you think i will gain total with fat water and muscle????
 
Ok, I have the same opinion as some of the other bro's here.... the first diet plan is horrible....the second one is better, but could still be improved.

First, those weight gainers are CRAP... the worst kind of empty calories, I don't care if you are trying to bulk up! You said you want CLEAN food... that's not it! You want dense calories, go with healthy fats: raw almonds, ANPB (stay away from processed, salted nuts!), avocado, fish oil, olive oil, flax oil.

Second, those pre-packaged meals (Hormel or any other kind) are FULL of sodium and preservatives... horrible. Do yourself a favor... I understand not having time as a student and all... not sure if you have access to a kitchen (if you don't, get a Foreman Grill, trust me, it's worth it).... get those huge packs of chicken breasts (save money that way), cook up a whole bunch of those breasts Sunday night and just pack them in ziplocs... you can use those bottled marinades for flavor if you want).

I would sub out the mashed potatoes and have either brown rice or sweet potatoes for dinner.

Not sure why you're eating vegetables and simple carbs right before bed. Your best bet is to have a casein protein shake... casein breaks down slowly and provides a nice steady stream of nutrients while you sleep. For added calories and to slow down digestion even more, add olive or flax or fish oil.... and have a few scoops of all-natural peanut butter. As an alternative to casein powder, have a tub of cottage cheese.

Just because you want to bulk and put on calories, doesn't mean you have to eat CRAP. Whole foods should be your basis, complex carbs and healthy fats will give you the extra calories you want. Use protein powders as a supplement and for their convenience.

Good luck!
 
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NEED:

FATS: Almonds, Flax Oil, Natural Peanut Butter, Almond Butter, Egg Yolks,
Avacado.

CARBS: Oatmeal, Sweet Potatos, Brown Rice, White Potatoes.

PROTEIN: Lean Beef (packs on mass), chicken, eggs, salmon, tuna, cottage
cheese.

MISC: fresh fruit, green veggies and the weekly cheat meal(s)


Train hard, sleep 8+ hours a night and you will grow.
 
Lots of great diet tips here guys. I've picked up a bit of knowledge in this thread. I'm a hardgainer so all this detailed bulking info is great. Thanks everybody :). Keep it comin'!
 
thx for all the replies...i also have learned a bunch of stuff in this thread...

muscle guy--the weight gainer shakes are only because i never have time in the morning. but ur right about before bed, I'll switch the simple carbs and have peanut butter and a casein shake with some flax seed... Also is it ok to get the fish oil in cap form?? Oh and that chicken idea is good that will save time for me to just cook up a BUNCH of them for the damn week haha thanks agaiun everyone for the replies can someone answer the steroid part HAHA :)
 
Thats a pretty broad question. I don't know your training history nor your body type etc. If this is your first cycle...I'd take out the EQ. Test and Dbol will do you perfect. My first cycle was:

Test E@ 500mg/wk 1-10wks
Dbol @ 25mg/ed 1-3wks

I gained over 30lbs! I kept roughly 22-25lbs of it too! I gained a bit of water, so I would watch for that. I was also on a pretty solid bulking diet.

You'll do fine bro.

Chris

hehateme000 said:
definetly .....day by day i will switch some things around and make sure i get the energy (carbs) more in the day, thanks for all the replies.....and just to ask everybody if i ever did this diet with a bulking cycle of

week 1-12 = testosterone enanthate 500mg EW
week 1-4 = Dianabol - methandrostenolone - 50mg ED
week 1-15 = Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - 600mg EW
week 3-15 = HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 250iu 2x EW (Mon/Thur)

week 16-20 = clomid 100mg/50mg/50mg/50mg/50mg ED
week 16-20 = Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 40mg/40mg/20mg/20mg/20mg ED

train hard, get enough sleep, and stick to this diet, around how much weight do you think i will gain total with fat water and muscle????
 
hehateme000 said:
definetly .....day by day i will switch some things around and make sure i get the energy (carbs) more in the day, thanks for all the replies.....and just to ask everybody if i ever did this diet with a bulking cycle of

week 1-12 = testosterone enanthate 500mg EW
week 1-4 = Dianabol - methandrostenolone - 50mg ED
week 1-15 = Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - 600mg EW
week 3-15 = HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 250iu 2x EW (Mon/Thur)

week 16-20 = clomid 100mg/50mg/50mg/50mg/50mg ED
week 16-20 = Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 40mg/40mg/20mg/20mg/20mg ED

train hard, get enough sleep, and stick to this diet, around how much weight do you think i will gain total with fat water and muscle????


Run the E Q for that long, but run your test for 2 weeks longer... this way the esters in both start to clear around the same time. You're good to go with everything else in the cycle.

As for P C T, choose one or the other... I personally hate both, but if I had to recommend one, I'd go with the clomid... start that 2 weeks after your last test shot... don't frontload, just go with 50mg ED for 4-6 weeks.

Oh, and don't forget to run an A I with your cycle.
 
alright for sure so ill run the test for 14 weeks, i want to get as big as i can but should i still use an AI...i have aromasin but idk if i want to use it haha...i think ill just run the clomid then if thats enough for PCT, and if i notice anything with gyno ill use the nolva with my cycle 20mg EOD or somethin....i think ill have UNLEASHED and some derma sus for PCT also :)

oh and khemix thats fuckin sick bro i cant wait cuz i know im gonna be committed to stick close to my eating plan or at least get whole foods instead of some shakes, im gonna train hard, and im gonna smoke some mary jane right before bed and start it all over :p
 
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